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#31
Oct 3 2023 05:18pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 3 2023 05:14pm)
It's much more safe the hands of an adult who isn't a narcissic traitor


Yes, in the access of Hunter Biden’s hands who was receiving diamonds from China. Great hands.
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#32
Oct 3 2023 05:18pm
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Sure, but now what? I can't think of any House Republican who'd be an acceptable Speaker to both the Gaetz faction and the mainstream Republican faction.


Democrats will help lol
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Oct 3 2023 05:22pm
Just in: Kevin states he will not run again for speakership
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Oct 3 2023 05:22pm
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It actually proved the opposite.

Trump and Biden were handled exactly the same but responded differently. Biden gave them over immediately. Trump actively hid them and submitted false statements, and they only raided to get the documents back after a solid year of Trump obstructing the process.

biden was never supposed to have possession of classified documents to begin with. Trump at least had that right as president.
you can argue if trump was in the wrong to not return "all" documents requested in a "prompt" manner.

trump's lawyers were working with officials and returning documents, and in fact... just as promptly as biden.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/evidence-justify-fbi-search-documents-biden-home-experts/story?id=96488911

the far-right view here, is that the fbi let biden's team "clean- up" before a raid. you could say that, but it's more as you stated it. he was contacted and requested to return classified documents.
where the comparison now comes to trump, is that biden didn't give "all" the classified documents over. instead, they've been found at multiple locations.
again, biden at the time never had a right to posses these.

we can also add in hilary for old times sake. possessing classified emails, some with top secret markings on a private server. one that shared the info stored with others, and so poorly maintained that it was "very likely" to be stolen by hostile entities.
that is just the words of comey though. who should have had charges of purgery pursued against him

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#35
Oct 3 2023 05:22pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 4 2023 02:00am)
Wait, I thought the DOJ was a corrupt organization that goes after Republicans and never charges Democrats.

but Gaetz and Menendez happened....

curious


DOJ is the corrupt enforcement arm for the left-wing fascist regime ruling USA today, correct

sadly for you, at the time, the left-wing fascists were not yet informed they could get away with convicting political opponents without evidence

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probe stalled over concerns about the credibility of two key witnesses or a lack of direct evidence implicating Gaetz, who has denied all wrongdoing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna70839
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Oct 3 2023 05:28pm
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Democrats will help lol



Why would they?
They stand to benefit if Republicans prove unable to elect a new Speaker. They might even be able to get Jeffries elected new Speaker if a handful of moderate Republicans become sick and tired of the clownshow by Gaetz et al.




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#37
Oct 3 2023 05:33pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Oct 3 2023 04:22pm)
biden was never supposed to have possession of classified documents to begin with. Trump at least had that right as president.
you can argue if trump was in the wrong to not return "all" documents requested in a "prompt" manner.

trump's lawyers were working with officials and returning documents, and in fact... just as promptly as biden.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/evidence-justify-fbi-search-documents-biden-home-experts/story?id=96488911

the far-right view here, is that the fbi let biden's team "clean- up" before a raid. you could say that, but it's more as you stated it. he was contacted and requested to return classified documents.
where the comparison now comes to trump, is that biden didn't give "all" the classified documents over. instead, they've been found at multiple locations.
again, biden at the time never had a right to posses these.

we can also add in hilary for old times sake. possessing classified emails, some with top secret markings on a private server. one that shared the info stored with others, and so poorly maintained that it was "very likely" to be stolen by hostile entities.
that is just the words of comey though. who should have had charges of purgery pursued against him


a far right view indeed
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Oct 3 2023 05:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 3 2023 07:28pm)
Why would they?
They stand to benefit if Republicans prove unable to elect a new Speaker. They might even be able to get Jeffries elected new Speaker if a handful of moderate Republicans become sick and tired of the clownshow by Gaetz et al.

i don't see the difference between a Jeffries and McCarthy speaker. maybe different committee heads for actual clownshows.

Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 3 2023 07:33pm)
a far right view indeed

the guy is our current president. i would argue things to be worse after finding so many at multiple locations, but...
the "initial" start to make a request i think is fair when the guy runs the country. no offence in my terminology, i may not exactly be far-right. but i'm further from the middle than i am from either far side.

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Oct 3 2023 05:36pm
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biden was never supposed to have possession of classified documents to begin with. Trump at least had that right as president.
you can argue if trump was in the wrong to not return "all" documents requested in a "prompt" manner.

trump's lawyers were working with officials and returning documents, and in fact... just as promptly as biden.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/evidence-justify-fbi-search-documents-biden-home-experts/story?id=96488911

the far-right view here, is that the fbi let biden's team "clean- up" before a raid. you could say that, but it's more as you stated it. he was contacted and requested to return classified documents.
where the comparison now comes to trump, is that biden didn't give "all" the classified documents over. instead, they've been found at multiple locations.
again, biden at the time never had a right to posses these.

we can also add in hilary for old times sake. possessing classified emails, some with top secret markings on a private server. one that shared the info stored with others, and so poorly maintained that it was "very likely" to be stolen by hostile entities.
that is just the words of comey though. who should have had charges of purgery pursued against him


What do you mean Biden wasn't supposed to have the documents? He was a senator, then vice president.

What you call "the far right view" is a total fabrication. Both parties were asked to return the documents that were in their posession. Biden unknowingly retained documents, found them, and returned them. Trump knowingly retained documents, obstructed their return, lied about posessing them, and continues to actively hide documents to this day.
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Oct 3 2023 05:39pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2023 07:36pm)
What do you mean Biden wasn't supposed to have the documents? He was a senator, then vice president.

What you call "the far right view" is a total fabrication. Both parties were asked to return the documents that were in their posession. Biden unknowingly retained documents, found them, and returned them. Trump knowingly retained documents, obstructed their return, lied about posessing them, and continues to actively hide documents to this day.

a "senator" can't "take" classified documents. they can request to "view" them. am i wrong?
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