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#31
Oct 3 2023 02:46pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 01:43pm)
So you agree that taking "hormone blockers" has permanent effects


What is your understanding of what happens once a puberty blocker has been discontinued?
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Oct 3 2023 02:50pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 3 2023 04:46pm)
What is your understanding of what happens once a puberty blocker has been discontinued?


There's no magical time travel where if someone who's 25 regrets using hormone blockers when they are 16 to go back in time and develop normally. That person's development process is permanently altered.
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Oct 3 2023 02:50pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 3 2023 01:46pm)
What is your understanding of what happens once a puberty blocker has been discontinued?


Natural hormone function is never completely restored. It's even WORSE if you alter your hormones during puberty because this is a single developmental event.

I have some knowledge on this topic as an amateur bodybuilder & chemist (who has stayed away from AAS). When you introduce an exogenous hormone, the natural production of that hormone is shut down due to feedback loops. You need additional chemical therapy to re-stimulate natural production in adulthood, and even then it's not perfect. Many young idiots destroy their natural hormone system for life abusing AAS and are stuck on TRT for the rest of their lives.

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understands this too since hes a biochemist.

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Oct 3 2023 02:52pm
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There's no magical time travel where if someone who's 25 regrets using hormone blockers when they are 16 to go back in time and develop normally. That person's development process is permanently altered.


And what is your understanding of the 'permanent alterations' associated with the use and eventual discontinuation of puberty blockers?
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Oct 3 2023 02:53pm
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There's no magical time travel where if someone who's 25 regrets using hormone blockers when they are 16 to go back in time and develop normally. That person's development process is permanently altered.


Exactly this.

You don't get to "redo" puberty if you change your mind in adulthood. Puberty happens once, and if you unnaturally disrupt that process, that's it.
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Oct 3 2023 02:56pm
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And what is your understanding of the 'permanent alterations' associated with the use and eventual discontinuation of puberty blockers?


Puberty and all that it encompasses, it's not one thing but many changes within one's body. Meddling and disrupting that normal time frame of development can't be 'made up' by simply it happening later in life. That's not how it works.
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#37
Oct 3 2023 02:57pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 01:50pm)
Natural hormone function is never completely restored. It's even WORSE if you alter your hormones during puberty because this is a single developmental event.

I have some knowledge on this topic as an amateur bodybuilder & chemist (who has stayed away from AAS). When you introduce an exogenous hormone, the natural production of that hormone is shut down due to feedback loops. You need additional chemical therapy to re-stimulate natural production in adulthood, and even then it's not perfect. Many young idiots destroy their natural hormone system for life abusing AAS and are stuck on TRT for the rest of their lives.

^NetflixAdaptationWidow understands this too since hes a biochemist.


Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 01:53pm)
Exactly this.

You don't get to "redo" puberty if you change your mind in adulthood. Puberty happens once, and if you unnaturally disrupt that process, that's it.


What you're describing is different than how puberty blockers work. Once discontinued, the body will go through its natural puberty trajectory.
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Oct 3 2023 03:00pm
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Puberty and all that it encompasses, it's not one thing but many changes within one's body. Meddling and disrupting that normal time frame of development can't be 'made up' by simply it happening later in life. That's not how it works.


I agree that puberty is a systemic change in the body; however, can you give me an example of an outcome resulting from "Meddling and disrupting that normal time frame of development" that is permanent, irreversible, and worrisome?
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Oct 3 2023 03:01pm
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What you're describing is different than how puberty blockers work. Once discontinued, the body will go through its natural puberty trajectory.


That is not true
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#40
Oct 3 2023 03:02pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 02:01pm)
That is not true


Can you provide evidence of that assertion for puberty blockers?
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