😂 they fall into the “fossil” rhetoric.

they call it fossil fuels

because it comes from fossils

hello?

Im talking about crude oil and coal obviously not like corn oil

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/fossil-fuels-dirty-facts

This post was edited by Crunkt on Sep 26 2023 12:50pm

RFK would beat Trump in a hypothetical 2024 match-up. Biden will lose. But the Democratic party has gone all in from 2012 onwards on absorbing the pro-corporate wing fully within the Democratic party. They're going to go down with the ship.

the writing has been on the walls since they championed outsourcing of labor under Clinton while being the "pro union" party. sucked up to corporations for sponsorship in elections and sold away their union base voters in solid blue states, turning them red or purple, all for campaign bucks they cant even spend. what a blunder.

Biden wins 2024 in a historic landslide while 45th cries about a rigged election from a jail cell



This post was edited by Crunkt on Sep 26 2023 01:24pm

You have to be the dumbest poster on this forum

Seems like you're a cultist of the "just stop oil" variety

here's a tip bud: if you want to stop oil, get rid of everything you currently own or consume that is made from or using oil

Majority of crude oil and gas we extract comes from ancient decomposed vegetation such as plankton and algae that got trapped under specific conditions and didn’t evaporate.

No dinosaurs unfortunately and no fossils down there.

bro read the article are you all dumb or something i dont understand

dinosaurs is a colloquial term like wtf



heres a tip buddy: if every hosuehold stopped using plastics and stoped druving cars that would be less than 10% of the total pollution

so it aint on me bro its on companies to change their shit which the government has the power to do but coke brothers spend a lot of money brainwashing all the american plebs to believe that oil is great and climate change is a hoax etc etc

if there wasn't so much money lobbying and going to brainwashing plebs to think oil and poisoned waste water etc is all great and dandy then we would already be 100% rid of coal but unfortunately you kind of need the entire world to realize whats good and that is hard especialyl considering you have half of the hogs squeelling because they saw a facebook post that said the libs are liars or w/e

This post was edited by Crunkt on Sep 26 2023 06:07pm

I read the article.

It’s impossible to achieve 80% generation and EVs by 2030 even if you are given infinite money cheat code. There is just not enough metals and minerals to replace fossil fuel energy for US alone, before tackling on the world.

Some back of the napkin math. US has 290m cars of all sorts registered and driving as of 2022. These include ancient ICE cars from the 1960s which are still roadworthy. Only 2.5M EVs were sold in the US in the past 12 years. They become obsolete within 8-10 years due to battery degradation which costs about 20-30k$ to replace for eg Tesla. Unless something changes radically it’s impossible to replace necessary amount of cars by 2030 or even 2050. Europe has banned sales of ICE vehicles from 2035. I want to see them actually try.

If we take generation alone (without heating in Northern states or industrial use for petrochemistry and so on) it will require US to build c.a. 3500 twh of generation capacity + grid batteries to ensure problem of intermittency is solved. We have to make a big assumption here that demand for electricity doesn’t increase due to all the EVs we need to put on the road as well as all fossil fuel heating we need to replace with resistance heating.



Then there is a problem of shipping your shit from China to LA where moving away from fuel oil is not expected anytime soon as sails are inefficient, you can’t power electric ocean going vessels with renewables on the vessel itself and you can’t power civilian vessels with nuclear due to cost (1bn+ per vessel instead of 50m) as well as prohibition to enter civilian ports on a nuclear driven vessel.

IMO selfreporting states we burned about 200m tonnes in 2020 (1300m barrels) of fuel oil and 10m tonnes of LNG to power about 33000 ships worldwide. (Report of fuel oil consumption data submitted to the IMO Ship Fuel Oil Consumption Database in GISIS (Reporting year: 2020))


Should stop and give up transitioning away from fossil fuel energy sources? No.

Shall we be honest what sacrifices setting such ambitious hard targets will require from an average Joe? Yes.

Good luck there.

This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 27 2023 12:34am

I don't know who needs to hear this, but he is *not* a libertarian, no matter what the pundits write.