Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 10 2023 05:02am)
There you have it. They're demonstrating for the state to pay for their mistakes in a hook up culture as adults. I can think of at least 20 types of contraception. In those liberal cities, I am all for the women to decide "my body, my choice" however the state should only pay for an abortion if:
1. Rape victim
2. Too young, a minor (up to 16 I guess)
3. Real clinical danger for the mother of the child during birth
The problem is going to solve by itself. At some point, men and women have to be adults and to be responsible for their own actions. The state shouldn't babysit anybody past 18.
An insurance system that only covers things based off of subjective values of personal responsibility is unlikely to be able to function. We cover all kinds of medical care that people likely take umbrage with based on that argumentation, such as complications for smoking and other substance use, bodily injury from reckless behavior, and more.
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 10 2023 06:25am)
the idea that anyone can support a late 3rd term abortion for non-medical reasons always boggles my mind. you had 8 months to decide, surely a reasonable cutoff seems like a good idea. the "clump of cells" argument goes out the window when you're scooping pieces of a viable child out of someone. as does my support for the pro choice movement. luckily this type of thing is a fringe group that's only ended up here because of stupid philosophical arguments that forced them to say a child isn't a child until it's born. sometimes the unwillingness to draw and respect a line in the sand just makes you a shitty person.
Thankfully less than 2% of abortions happen after 21 weeks gestation, and are usually due to major complications. In an ideal world "abortion" simply means the termination of pregnancy, not necessarily the termination of fetal life.