Quote (DiekhokhlyDieSuky @ 29 May 2023 17:22)

No thing like sovereign nation, is for stupids to believe. There are America(Nato) , Russia(USSR) and China.

We say in 1989, ok we give you east Germany as obvious people there germans and not our mentality, even they can join nato, BUT NOT STEP MORE, Usa say ok ok of course we promise. Ok it happens, but uncle Sam decides to still grab country into nato while Russia was weak and corrupt.

Now Russia strong and its take back what belong to ours, if those country not want to be just neutral on our border and threaten us by place atomic weapon on their ground. We will come and crush their countries and rebuild it into neutral country

Quote (IchBinDaddy @ May 30 2023 01:08am)

LPR and DPR are purely theatrical and the only way Russia would’ve been able to fully conduct their “special operation” in their own legal court… which is also theater. Minimizing the damage done internally, even though it seems that everyday some poor sob partakes in a “tragic accident” after saying something questionable in the Kremlin’s eyes.

It’s no secret this is all about gaining territory. As the Russian bot troll has already said, they want soviet era borders and control.

Personally I think it’s Putin’s last hurrah to be solidified into history books, before he dies. I’ve read a couple of his essays and listened to his early speeches… unless the translation is off, he is obsessed and always has been obsessed with taking back Ukraine. “The worst tragedy of the 20th century is losing Ukraine after the Fall.”
He believes Ukraine to be the birthplace of Russia.

Quote (IchBinDaddy @ May 30 2023 01:26am)

“We will take everything so that it is neutral.”
“Ukraine is full of Jewish Nazis.”

Are you even listening to yourself? I’m assuming you’re getting 200 rupees per post.

Quote (IchBinDaddy @ May 29 2023 06:26pm)

“We will take everything so that it is neutral.”
“Ukraine is full of Jewish Nazis.”

Are you even listening to yourself? I’m assuming you’re getting 200 rupees per post.

Quote (Handcuffs @ 30 May 2023 00:18)

I don't know Elite's personal views of the situation, and was asking for the general consensus on what the rationale being used is--which he provided. Whether that rationale is rational is a different consideration.

Quote (IchBinDaddy @ May 30 2023 01:26am)

“We will take everything so that it is neutral.”
“Ukraine is full of Jewish Nazis.”

Are you even listening to yourself? I’m assuming you’re getting 200 rupees per post.

Quote (DiekhokhlyDieSuky @ May 29 2023 03:22pm)

No thing like sovereign nation, is for stupids to believe. There are America(Nato) , Russia(USSR) and China.

We say in 1989, ok we give you east Germany as obvious people there germans and not our mentality, even they can join nato, BUT NOT STEP MORE, Usa say ok ok of course we promise. Ok it happens, but uncle Sam decides to still grab country into nato while Russia was weak and corrupt.

Now Russia strong and its take back what belong to ours, if those country not want to be just neutral on our border and threaten us by place atomic weapon on their ground. We will come and crush their countries and rebuild it into neutral country

Quote (Meanwhile @ May 29 2023 03:29pm)

So that's it. The fundamental reasons/basis OR the statement of reasons, reasons exposed.

What's the rationale for invading Ukraine? <=== The one you said
What's the rationale used by putin for invading Ukraine?<=== The one you are saying now

First one never changed, second one was modified by Putin following the needs like i said in my previous post.

Quote (El1te @ May 30 2023 01:30am)

This statement completely contradicts your original sentence, which states (paraphrasing) that there are no sovereign nations, but satellite states under different global hegemons.

Quote (El1te @ May 30 2023 01:34am)

All of the causes for war are ammunition that Putin uses to further his territorial ambitions.

If you don't give him any ammunition, he cannot invade, or else it would be another WW2 situation which wouldn't end well for Russia (an unprovoked war)

Ukraine fucked up by recognizing neo-nazi paramilitaries, and looking the other way with what they were doing in the Donbas.