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#31
May 29 2023 12:21pm
Erdogan, or the guarantee that Turkey will not be integrated into the EU for a long time. More like Fences like the one done in

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Which kind of dog shit would praise, celebrate, islam nativism ....

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/bulgaria-wants-eu-money-for-new-border-fence-with-turkey/
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May 29 2023 12:26pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 29 2023 08:21pm)
Erdogan, or the guarantee that Turkey will not be integrated into the EU for a long time. More like Fences like the one done in

^JohnnyMcCoy Which kind of dog shit would praise, celebrate, islam nativism ....

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/bulgaria-wants-eu-money-for-new-border-fence-with-turkey/


Imagine having to pay Erdogan lots and lots of $$$$$$$$ to make Turkey block migration to EU...

Who do you think is laughing ^_^


Edit: BTW this is also an interesting point that I should've mentioned in my previous reply to
NetflixAdaptationWidow


Conclusion: NATO / EU don't like Erdogan because he's not "progressive" enough but they need him, simple as that

This post was edited by Djunior on May 29 2023 12:34pm
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#33
May 29 2023 12:39pm
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I'm not Turkish / no family there ;)

It's an interesting situation because "progressive" MSM have been shitting on Erdogan for a long time while at the same time Turkey is a very important NATO ally and the West needs to keep Turkey on their side.

When leaders shit on him, Erdogan is that guy to stand up and say F you. Did you notice what I posted, "progressive" world leaders congratulating Erdogan on his win?

It's funny af don't you agree?


What this and your previous responses tell me is you don't know anything about Turkey or its relationship with the rest of the world outside of what you've gotten recently from the "trigger the libs" branch of online media.



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May 29 2023 12:44pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 29 2023 08:39pm)
What this and your previous responses tell me is you don't know anything about Turkey or its relationship with the rest of the world outside of what you've gotten recently from the "trogger the libs" branch of online media.


EU paying Erdogan to block migration --> fact
"progressive" MSM shitting on Erdogan --> fact
Turkey important NATO ally --> fact
"progressive" world leaders congratulating Erdogan on win --> fact

What did I not understand?
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#35
May 29 2023 12:49pm
Owen Matthews wrote a good one about Erdogan winning.

Probably good - seems Erdogan got a LOT of votes from Turks in Europe, even 2nd generation ones.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/erdogan-made-himself-indispensable-to-turkey-and-the-west/
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#36
May 29 2023 12:49pm
Quote (Djunior @ May 29 2023 01:44pm)
EU paying Erdogan to block migration --> fact
"progressive" MSM shitting on Erdogan --> fact
Turkey important NATO ally --> fact
"progressive" world leaders congratulating Erdogan on win --> fact

What did I not understand?


Turkey has always gotten preferential treatment in NATO despite being a massively destabilizing force both economically and militarily.

It has nothing to do with them not being progressive. The leaders of the broader NATO alliance drop that shit when international matters land on the table.
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May 29 2023 12:51pm
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Turkey has always gotten preferential treatment in NATO despite being a massively destabilizing force both economically and militarily.

It has nothing to do with them not being progressive. The leaders of the broader NATO alliance drop that shit when international matters land on the table.


That's exactly what I argued here how could you miss it...

And ask yourself why the EU has frozen Turkish EU membership
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#38
May 29 2023 12:55pm
Quote (Djunior @ May 29 2023 01:51pm)
That's exactly what I argued here how could you miss it...

And ask yourself why the EU has frozen Turkish EU membership


That may be your intention but the message you stated was that they were criticizing erdogan for not being progressive.

Which isn't the case. They don't like that he's consolidating power and destabilizing Turkey economically.
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May 29 2023 12:59pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 29 2023 08:55pm)
That may be your intention but the message you stated was that they were criticizing erdogan for not being progressive.

Which isn't the case. They don't like that he's consolidating power and destabilizing Turkey economically.


Read dude...

MSM criticized Erdogan, world leaders congratulated him on win

It's literally there in my previous posts

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#40
May 29 2023 01:02pm
Quote (Djunior @ May 29 2023 01:59pm)
Read dude...

MSM criticized Erdogan, world leaders congratulated him on win

It's literally there in my previous posts


You specifically said

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Conclusion: NATO / EU don't like Erdogan because he's not "progressive" enough but they need him, simple as that


NATO and EU leaders don't like him because he's consolidating power and destabilizing the region, not because he's "not progressive enough".

It's right there dude.

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