Questions About Christianity.
Where does the idea that life begins at conception come from, and where does the idea that life is sacred come from?

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This is factually 100% correct.

Have a gander at this clip from Bill Maher:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fGzgmF3m5i0

Here he is being honest and saying correctly that abortion is murder, just that he's okay with it. It would be nice if other pro-abortion people would admit this instead of lying to everyone

And I pointed out that the two questions have nothing to do with Christianity. The original poster still appears to be on a Christophobic diatribe even after being reminded of this....

This post was edited by El1te on May 22 2023 02:02pm

I already told you, nobody is asking when life on earth began. We are asking when the life of single human individuals begin. In other words, define the precise moment in which any single human organism first starts to exist. You are being dishonest.

Also, eggs aren't life, lol. Only organisms can have life (or no life, in which case it's dead). Eggs are just cells. Cells cannot be either alive or dead. We just use words like "alive" or "dead" to describe cells like eggs because we talk colloquially.



It sounds like you can't answer when human life begins, so you try to muddy the water by insisting that we ask another question that you are more comfortable with.

Nobody gives a shit when personhood begins. It's only important to people like you.




Nobody is talking about rights. We simply ask you when you think human life begins but you keep dodging, because deep down you also know that conception is the moment when a newly made human begins to exist.

This post was edited by JessiWan on May 22 2023 02:05pm

When personhood begins is not defined scientifically and never can be, because it's a legalistic concept. It is defined legally, which can be changed based on the whims and wishes of the population of a democracy.

Yep. And that's the only question that is important to the conversation.

When "life" begins is a meaningless question, because life never stopped. Eggs and Sperm are both alive.

Well, I would say it is not because the question being asked is When does human life begin?

You are intentionally and in bad faith ignoring this question as points out.

And yes, eggs and sperm ARE alive. They are parts of the mother and father respectively. They have the cellular genetical makeup of the mother and father respectively. These are not a NEW human life, but cells of an already existing human life.

The question IS NOT "When DID life begin?"

This post was edited by El1te on May 22 2023 02:05pm

Sperm and eggs undergo recombination during meiosis and have unique genetic makeup from the parent or its grandparents. So you've still failed a define something that would constitute a new human life.

"new human life" is a semantic question. It depends how you define it. Personally fertilization doesn't seem to be right, because lots of fertilized eggs are unviable and spontaneously abort or never implant to begin with. That's certainly not a "new human life".

You don't get to decide what question gets asked in a conversation. We will keep asking you when human life begins and we will keep pointing out that you are unable to answer that question.



Only entities on the level of organism can be alive (or dead, as the case might be).

Do you consider eggs to be human life?

How are you defining "human life"?