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May 1 2023 10:51am
I have crazy commute some times..
My ability to be remote as needed has saved me literally 15 hours a week that I can get work done without sitting in the car.
I still go in as needed. It has been a good change.
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May 1 2023 10:58am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 1 2023 11:47am)
How exactly would more distance working lead to a more sedentary life? Nowadays, you have people sitting on their ass in the office for 8+ hours, plus 1-2 hours of sitting on their ass in their car during commute. With more work from home, they would still sit 8 hours in front of a computer screen, but they could at least cut on the shitty commute and spend the additional free time working in their garden or going outside to play with their kids or something like that.



Fair point, a place like Canada might be too underpopulated. Still, even if you kept the bulk of the country's population and infrastructure confined to the Windsor-Quebec corridor, you could still spread it out better within this corridor. (While leaving the actual wilderness uninhabitated.)


The less reasons you have to leave your home out of necessity will lead to less people leaving their homes voluntarily. IMO
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May 1 2023 11:26am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 1 2023 10:58am)
The less reasons you have to leave your home out of necessity will lead to less people leaving their homes voluntarily. IMO


2077 VR only lifestyle incoming?
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2077 VR only lifestyle incoming?


100%. ready player 1 is more prophetic than it is hyperbolic.
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I have crazy commute some times..
My ability to be remote as needed has saved me literally 15 hours a week that I can get work done without sitting in the car.
I still go in as needed. It has been a good change.


I believe it will soon become the norm for any WFH-feasible jobs that folks only come to the office once or twice per week, max.
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I believe it will soon become the norm for any WFH-feasible jobs that folks only come to the office once or twice per week, max.


I kind of miss being more "at" work. But just being efficient. Non commuting is a total win.
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May 1 2023 12:16pm
everything that can get done remotely will get done remotely in the future

started for me with the lockdowns and i absolutely hated it at first, over time my opinion flipped

my recruiter guy told me that companies in IT have started getting people back into the office, lets see how long that trend lasts
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 1 2023 12:50pm)
I believe it will soon become the norm for any WFH-feasible jobs that folks only come to the office once or twice per week, max.


Soon is gonna take a while. Gonna need all the old types who prefer in person interaction to die off or retire from senior roles.
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Soon is gonna take a while. Gonna need all the old types who prefer in person interaction to die off or retire from senior roles.


Like snipa said, WFH actually saves corporations a lot of money. The dinosaur-types among middle management might not like the loss of control and power over their staff, but the top brass will not care once they realize that there is no drop in overall efficiency and lots of savings to be made.

The main obstacle I see is that a lot of the office infrastructure is still geared toward presence work, with every employee having his or her own office space and so on. Saving on office space only works if this arrangement is changed. But that shouldn't be a problem in the medium term if employees just gets a work-laptop from their employer that they can use at home, but also bring with them when they come to the office. Basically, companies just have to get rid of the desktops and buy more laptops; then they can start reducing their office space. That's a process which should take something like 3-5 years.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 1 2023 03:00pm)
Like snipa said, WFH actually saves corporations a lot of money. The dinosaur-types among middle management might not like the loss of control and power over their staff, but the top brass will not care once they realize that there is no drop in overall efficiency and lots of savings to be made.

The main obstacle I see is that a lot of the office infrastructure is still geared toward presence work, with every employee having his or her own office space and so on. Saving on office space only works if this arrangement is changed. But that shouldn't be a problem in the medium term if employees just gets a work-laptop from their employer that they can use at home, but also bring with them when they come to the office. Basically, companies just have to get rid of the desktops and buy more laptops; then they can start reducing their office space. That's a process which should take something like 3-5 years.


WFH does save a lot of money, but it's a mistake to assume capitalists are only interested in making money. They are also interested in maintaining control. An example of this is Wal-Mart and other retailers internal memos acknowledging that raising minimum wage typically results in bigger profits, but still lobbying against it becuase they lose control over workers.

I forsee that a mass change in WFH will only happen about as quickly as monitoring software catches up.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 1 2023 02:07pm
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