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Apr 10 2023 06:29pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Apr 10 2023 05:13pm)
except physical causation is not a psychological grounding. thanks for proving my point rofl.

& thankfully sociologists disagree w/ the dsm doctors who are prescribing tranquilizers to a parasitic problem. what a dispicable thing to do.

be a good shill and deflect now soy boy.


literally nothing you've said disproves my point but go on chief. seems like you have some demons that need exorcising
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Quote (lodd222 @ Apr 10 2023 05:23pm)
the bible and rev confirm what i've said:

For by thy sorceries(pharmakeia) were all nations deceived, that a literal rev apoc bible quote w/ literal definition:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2018%3A23

https://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm


deceived..."dcevo".


Revelation 18:23

23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.

So medicine i take for my disorder are sorcery now?

If something is being used for good and is not detrimental for the kingdom of God then how can it be sorcery? Its just basic science. Would you not take any medicine if you had, Parkinsons, for example? You would change your tone real quick!

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Revelation 18:23

23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.

So medicine i take for my disorder are sorcery now?

If something is being used for good and is not detrimental for the kingdom of God then how can it be sorcery? Its just basic science. Would you not take any medicine if you had, Parkinsons, for example? You would change your tone real quick!


Quote (gnarjay @ Apr 10 2023 07:29pm)
literally nothing you've said disproves my point but go on chief. seems like you have some demons that need exorcising

always has been:


the rich guys would be the trillion dollar pharma inc, wasnt hard.

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always has been:
https://i.ibb.co/GC31MRW/Screen-Shot-2023-04-10-at-7-34-33-PM.png

the rich guys would be the trillion dollar pharma inc, wasnt hard.


more religious mumbo jumbo
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always has been:
https://i.ibb.co/GC31MRW/Screen-Shot-2023-04-10-at-7-34-33-PM.png

the rich guys would be the trillion dollar pharma inc, wasnt hard.


I think there are really three questions here: one about translation, one about the practice of medicine , and one about interpretation for today.

First, translation: The word pharmakeia is very much like our word for ‘drugs’: that is, it can refer to many things. When I use the word “drugs” I can be referring to Tylenol (which can be purchased over the counter) or to prescription drugs (which require the oversight of a physician), but I can also be referring to illegal drugs (such as meth). Which I am referring to will depend entirely on context; generally, when someone uses the word ‘drugs’ they have a specific meaning in mind rather than all three. The word pharmakeia is much the same. It has a range of meanings. It can refer to magic, but it very often refers to the practice of medicine or what might be called healing arts (see Liddell and Scott, a Greek-English Lexicon). It does not refer to both of these things at the same time. It depends on context. In the New Testament the word pharmekeia occurs three times (Gal 5:19-21; Rev 9:21; 18:23). Each time, it is translated as ‘sorcery’ or ‘magic’ and it is something that is spoken of in negative terms. The translators have chosen this definition because of the context. This does not mean that every possible definition of the word phramekeia is condemned. It depends on context.

Second, you ask if the practice of medicine is condemned in the New Testament. By no means. There are two verses that point to a positive view of the practice of medicine: "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.” (Matt 9:12; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:31). Why say that the sick have need of a physician if medicine is condemned? And Colossians 4:14 brings greetings from “Luke, the physician.” Why would Luke’s profession as a physician be mentioned if it were viewed as inappropriate or tantamount to sorcery? The New Testament certainly recognizes that healing can occur in other ways besides through the care of a physician: Jesus is presented as the quintessential healer. Both Mark and Luke tell a story about a woman who had been ill for many years and who had seen many physicians, none of whom were able to help here (Mark 5:26; Luke 8:43). This does not condemn the medical profession; rather it describes the desperate state of the woman.

Third: interpretation for today. Healing is a complex process. Most any physician today would agree with this and I believe such a view is present also in the New Testament. It involves individuals such as family or friends who support us (think of the four friends who carry the paralytic to Jesus); it involves treatment by physicians and licensed mental health care specialists and may include the appropriate use of specific drugs; it involves faith – that is, trust in God; it also involves our own willingness to engage in actions and activities that promote health.
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Apr 10 2023 06:58pm
will keep reposting since the shills are afraid of the undeniable biblical truth:

would you just look at it!


imagine just imagine trying to say jesus gave people pills for cash and merely tranquilized the sick...
please read your bible and use the bible definitions, im not interested in your mental gymnastics to justify your pill popping addictions
sponsored or induced by big pharma sorcery inc.

10/11 imo.

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Apr 10 2023 08:48pm
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will keep reposting since the shills are afraid of the undeniable biblical truth:

would you just look at it!
https://i.ibb.co/GC31MRW/Screen-Shot-2023-04-10-at-7-34-33-PM.png

imagine just imagine trying to say jesus gave people pills for cash and merely tranquilized the sick...
please read your bible and use the bible definitions, im not interested in your mental gymnastics to justify your pill popping addictions
sponsored or induced by big pharma sorcery inc.

10/11 imo.


You keep making a mistake. That mistake is in this case that word was used for sorcery and it is translated as such and not to mean drugs
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Apr 10 2023 08:53pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Apr 10 2023 05:58pm)
will keep reposting since the shills are afraid of the undeniable biblical truth:

would you just look at it!
https://i.ibb.co/GC31MRW/Screen-Shot-2023-04-10-at-7-34-33-PM.png

imagine just imagine trying to say jesus gave people pills for cash and merely tranquilized the sick...
please read your bible and use the bible definitions, im not interested in your mental gymnastics to justify your pill popping addictions
sponsored or induced by big pharma sorcery inc.

10/11 imo.


Is blood pressure medication sinful?
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Apr 10 2023 08:56pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Apr 10 2023 05:58pm)
will keep reposting since the shills are afraid of the undeniable biblical truth:

would you just look at it!
https://i.ibb.co/GC31MRW/Screen-Shot-2023-04-10-at-7-34-33-PM.png

imagine just imagine trying to say jesus gave people pills for cash and merely tranquilized the sick...
please read your bible and use the bible definitions, im not interested in your mental gymnastics to justify your pill popping addictions
sponsored or induced by big pharma sorcery inc.

10/11 imo.


Suppose you are right, you have successfully got a schizophrenic back off his meds. Deal with that, but I forgive you if it is wrong, but as I see now I have a change of heart that certain drugs are definitely sorcerous so perhaps that interpretation is correct.
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Quote (DCEVO @ Apr 10 2023 09:48pm)
You keep making a mistake. That mistake is in this case that word was used for sorcery and it is translated as such and not to mean drugs


you keeping making a mistake, that mistake is thinking its a mistake and not the truth that i proved w a literal quote of rev apoc & its end times sorcery and that literal definition being pharmakeia.

jesus can not stop you from committing sorcery or from them forcing it initially nor loving the lies of sin more than harsh truth.

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