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Mar 27 2023 05:08pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 11:55pm)
I don't think anything is an issue, nor would I consider test users a risk for this (any man is a potential mass murderer), I'm just saying that the shooter can't really be considered a woman in terms of statistics


So hormone imbalance is not an issue in your opinion. So why is the fact the shooter was trans an issue?
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Mar 27 2023 05:09pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2023 03:59pm)
alright then, ill bite since it seems like 4chan and right wing media outlets are trying to hard dox this kid as fast as they can about it

1 school shooting done by a transgender person, who cares what their gender identity was it isnt relevant

what do you want done about this situation, in your own words. where do you think the main issue was, in your own words


we will get verification and find out more if the manifesto is ever released, but if it quacks like a duck it most likely is a duck.
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Mar 27 2023 05:10pm
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So hormone imbalance is not an issue in your opinion. So why is the fact the shooter was trans an issue?


because it was an anti-Christian hate crime.

It's like asking why the fact that the Tops mass murderer was white is an issue
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Mar 27 2023 05:11pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 28 2023 12:10am)
because it was an anti-Christian hate crime.

It's like asking why the fact that the Tops mass murderer was white is an issue


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Mar 27 2023 05:11pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 06:09pm)
we will get verification and find out more if the manifesto is ever released, but if it quacks like a duck it most likely is a duck.


you need to do better than that, even if this so called manifesto comes out and this person was in a fit of rage against christianity and did the attack strictly because they believe they were helping some sort of lgbt cause, it would be nothing more than a murderer making up bullshit to justify their need to murder

LGBT people do not advocate violence against their opressors, the argument you are trying to set up does not work the way you think its going to
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Mar 27 2023 05:11pm
Quote (Santara @ 28 Mar 2023 00:46)
This was planned in advance, mapped out, surveilled, etc. If so-called assault weapons were illegal, you can 100% presume this attack would still have taken place.


takes a special kind of person trying to exploit this for their personal gun agenda - based on nothing but speculation. especially considering how so many mass shooting were committed with ar-15s, and every common sense evaluation suggests they would have been significantly less lethal had assault weapon bans been in place...
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Mar 27 2023 05:13pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2023 04:11pm)
you need to do better than that, even if this so called manifesto comes out and this person was in a fit of rage against christianity and did the attack strictly because they believe they were helping some sort of lgbt cause, it would be nothing more than a murderer making up bullshit to justify their need to murder

LGBT people do not advocate violence against their opressors, the argument you are trying to set up does not work the way you think its going to


okay I thought we would have a serious discussion but I guess not
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Mar 27 2023 05:14pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2023 04:11pm)
you need to do better than that, even if this so called manifesto comes out and this person was in a fit of rage against christianity and did the attack strictly because they believe they were helping some sort of lgbt cause, it would be nothing more than a murderer making up bullshit to justify their need to murder

LGBT people do not advocate violence against their opressors, the argument you are trying to set up does not work the way you think its going to


yes that is what a murder hate crime is
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Mar 27 2023 05:20pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 06:13pm)
okay I thought we would have a serious discussion but I guess not


again i state, even if this was a hate crime and the evidence shows it undeniably, what should we do about this?
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Mar 27 2023 05:21pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 04:08pm)
mostly likely a retaliation against the bills. We will find out more if the manifesto is ever released.


While no reason could ever justify this--the possibility that it is such retaliation makes my heart ache just that much more.
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