you mean like this?

I don't understand why you mentioned this. I am not a supporter of Trump. And I don't take sides. I don't condone bribery on either side.

Literal mental illness

>Recognizing foreign policy being conducted in broad daylight is literal mental illness

I don't get why you're so reflexively defensive over Joe fucking Biden lmao.

Russia is just a little puppy that wouldn't invade another country no matter what. Biden literally forced them to!

I think some people are saying that Putin is just reacting to what the NATO keeps doing.

I'm responding specifically to the guy who just said Biden literally forced them to invade

Ukraine spent decades at peace in the status quo ante. Russia had zero reason to invade a country that was already aligned with them, inside their sphere of influence. Joe Biden wrested Ukraine from them by force, overthrowing their democracy, folding it into NATO's sphere, and eventually NATO proper.
Joe Biden's foreign policy is the root of this chain of causality. Actions and reactions trace back to an origin point. The system was stabile until Biden introduced instability.

Did Osama Bin Laden "literally force" the US to invade Afghanistan? We could have simply chose not to react to 9/11 at all. Just take our lumps and brush it off and accept the thousands killed in a hostile attack by a foreign power. Instead we made a predictable reaction. Albeit one that, unlike Russia's invasion of Ukraine, didn't serve our pragmatic geopolitical interests. But Bin Laden planned 9/11, America reacted, a chain of events ensued. Do you see anyone saying George W. Bush has zero responsibility for the wars because OBL made him do it? I think we can all accept more nuanced and less superficial analysis of geopolitics than that

Yes it was the United States that invaded Ukraine and killed thousands of them to ensure their influence wouldn't decrease.

I really want to live in your world where up is down and gay is straight.

Russia has literally, for our entire lives, been invading its neighbors. But yes, it' was totally the USA that FORCED Ukraine into its sphere of influence and overthrew their Democracy. It definitely wasn't a popular uprising against a guy who was literally turning the country into a puppet state, and also please ignore that the guy who was ousted fled directly to Russia and was immediately put under their protection.

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How hard is it to recognize a basic chain of causality? Do you deny the US orchestrated a color revolution and micromanaged the post maidan government? Do you deny there was a peaceful democracy in Ukraine prior to that revolution? How about the predictability that Russia would use force to take back that which was taken from it by force?

These events unfolded because Joe Biden engaged in a hawkish shadow intervention in Ukraine. If Ukraine was left untouched, it would still be in the same post soviet status quo. Cause, effect. Whether it was Russia's little green men in a near decade standoff or a full blown invasion, the outcome was inevitable