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Nov 17 2021 11:13pm
Quote (Knarglegarth @ Nov 17 2021 11:01pm)
Nobody feels bad for the guy. He was vile.
This guy was awful. It probably is best that he's gone as he was a repeat offender. Do you think all pedophiles should be killed? Statutory rapists? Are these the only people who you think should be murdered? What about people who rape adults? What about people who murder other people? What about people who violently beat up an old person? I'm just curious where this all goes. I'm just curious what other crimes you deem as punishable by death.



I happen to live in the Shoal Creek area of KC if you happen to be familiar with it. However, our state ranks 42nd in healthcare, 30th in education, 27th in infrastructure, and 3rd in Qanon dipshits. Not a good state by any means. The only good areas are KC and STL. The rest are cousin-fuckers for the most part.


So it took an actual reading of what he did to finally agree he's better off dead.
Christ.

Do you think all convicted pedophiles should be killed?
Yes

The rest have scenarios where death would and wouldn't be warranted. If you want to make some scenarios for me I'd gladly tell you what I think.
There is no scenario where you take the innocence from a child, and get a second chance.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 17 2021 11:20pm
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Nov 17 2021 11:13pm
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I also agree that you can't go play Batman with an AR on your free time.

People's character has nothing to do with the trial.

With that said the child rapist shouldn't be on the streets since they should be tied to two horses and split in half at the towns square. Although that's my opinion it's not relevant to the jury's decision.

I also don't actually know the priors and if child rape was one of them. I probably should look before making such comments.


do you think kyle was playing batman? He put out a dumpster fire that was bring pushed in to a has station. The riots did 50 million In damages 100 buildings burned with 40 bring burnt to the ground.

I don't believe a rapist who just got out of a mental hospital should be on the streets trying to blow up a gas station. Then chase after a guy putting out fires and grab his gun.
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Nov 17 2021 11:23pm
Quote (lolkggz @ Nov 17 2021 11:13pm)
So it took an actual reading of what he did to finally agree he's better off dead.
Christ.

Do you think all convicted pedophiles should be killed?
Yes

The rest have scenarios where death would and wouldn't be warranted.
There is no scenario where you're getting off on children that isn't warranted by death.


We're in agreement that their actions are heinous. I think your punishment guidelines are absurd though. And I do fully believe in attempting to rehabilitate individuals. https://www.sapiens.org/culture/can-child-sex-offenders-be-rehabilitated/ provides a bit of information on attempted rehabilitation therapy in Germany with some success. Keep in mind also that most child sex offenders end up this way as a result of social learning theory -- or simply having experienced abuse themselves as children. https://www.bartleby.com/essay/The-Root-Causes-of-Sexual-Offending-Social-PKXEF6AWUDAX

Perhaps the discussion going forward should be on access to healthcare and mental health professionals to further prevent such monstrous acts from taking place?


edit: rehabilitate individuals to an extent. if recidivism occurs, obviously punishment should be increased accordingly. first offense -- we attempt rehabilitation and therapy. an overwhelming percentage of child sex offenders were the victims of child sex abuse during their adolescence. these people deserve an opportunity to "fix" themselves.

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Nov 17 2021 11:31pm
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We're in agreement that their actions are heinous. I think your punishment guidelines are absurd though. And I do fully believe in attempting to rehabilitate individuals. https://www.sapiens.org/culture/can-child-sex-offenders-be-rehabilitated/ provides a bit of information on attempted rehabilitation therapy in Germany with some success. Keep in mind also that most child sex offenders end up this way as a result of social learning theory -- or simply having experienced abuse themselves as children. https://www.bartleby.com/essay/The-Root-Causes-of-Sexual-Offending-Social-PKXEF6AWUDAX

Perhaps the discussion going forward should be on access to healthcare and mental health professionals to further prevent such monstrous acts from taking place?


edit: rehabilitate individuals to an extent. if recidivism occurs, obviously punishment should be increased accordingly. first offense -- we attempt rehabilitation and therapy. an overwhelming percentage of child sex offenders were the victims of child sex abuse during their adolescence. these people deserve an opportunity to "fix" themselves.


Yes we know pedophiles procreate and spread by molesting children.
I have a rehibilitation method that would be sure fire.

If a pedophile harms a kid, you televise/show the hanging around 11pm or so for the public to see. Kids should be in bed by then.
This will send a message that if you molest kids you will die.
You start eradicating the illness and suppressing it.
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Nov 17 2021 11:45pm
Quote (aaron9999 @ Nov 17 2021 10:13pm)
do you think kyle was playing batman? He put out a dumpster fire that was bring pushed in to a has station. The riots did 50 million In damages 100 buildings burned with 40 bring burnt to the ground.

I don't believe a rapist who just got out of a mental hospital should be on the streets trying to blow up a gas station. Then chase after a guy putting out fires and grab his gun.


Yes I actively think Kyle got sucked into larping. It's not surprising those that were shot have priors just like it's not a stretch to say there's something wrong in the head of Kyle.

Normal people were sitting at home, the majority out that night causing damage or larping around with rifles probably have issues.

If prison didn't eat tax dollars I'd say just toss them all in and call it a day.
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Nov 17 2021 11:47pm
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Yes I actively think Kyle got sucked into larping. It's not surprising those that were shot have priors just like it's not a stretch to say there's something wrong in the head of Kyle.

Normal people were sitting at home, the majority out that night causing damage or larping around with rifles probably have issues.

If prison didn't eat tax dollars I'd say just toss them all in and call it a day.


This was the biggest part of it.
His "cool" older friends were going out to LARP, he wanted to be a part of it.
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Nov 18 2021 12:16am
Quote (lolkggz @ Nov 17 2021 10:47pm)
This was the biggest part of it.
His "cool" older friends were going out to LARP, he wanted to be a part of it.
Unfortch


There's a lot of potentially dangerous influencers out there right now, more than ever in the last 100 years with the reach of social media and the USA being so polarized.

I'd say more than ever but the Church might have something to say about that.

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Quote (Knarglegarth @ Nov 17 2021 10:37pm)
Your absolutely asinine views on race are about as absurd and ridiculous as your anti-vax nonsense. InfoWars and Alex Jones have done a number on boomers like you. I hope you enjoy your Mike Lindell body pillow that for some reason smells like Chili Cheese Fritos.



Just so you know, i am anti-gov. This includes Trump, Biden, and Qanun. Also Alex Jones is a shill and Mike Lindell is an idiot. And lastly I'm GenX baby. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.

You did get one thing right though, I do like Chili Cheese Fritos.
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Quote (lolkggz @ 17 Nov 2021 23:55)
Here you go sorry for the wall of text.

COUNT ONE: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE FELONY)
On or about the month of February, 2002 through the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (name removed) a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

COUNT TWO: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (second victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

COUNT THREE: (FURNISHING OBSCENE OR HARMFUL ITEMS TO MINORS, A CLASS FOUR FELONY)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM, with knowledge of the character of the item involved, recklessly furnished, presented, provided, made available, gave, lent, showed, advertised, distributed an item harmful to minors, to (second victim), a minor under eighteen years of age, to Wit: photographs of nude women including their genitals.

COUNT FOUR: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE Felony)
On or about the 27th day at March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (second victim), a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

COUNT FIVE: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (third victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

COURT SIX: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by inserting his penis into the victim’s mouth.

COUNT SEVEN: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by placing his mouth on the victim’s penis.

COUNT EIGHT: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his hand.

COUNT NINE: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by causing the victim to touch his penis.

COUNT TEN: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fifth victim), a child under fifteen years of age, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his finger.

COUNT ELEVEN: (INDECENT EXPOSURE TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS SIX FELONY)
On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM indecently exposed his genitals to (fifth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by showing the victim his penis.


here you go:





Fake trying to cry: he literally murdered 2 people and is acting like a victim, what a turd.



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Nov 18 2021 03:42am
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Nov 17 2021 08:30pm)
Yes, but I mean in the context of what we're talking about


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