Quote (Ghot @ 12 Jun 2019 21:30)

Oh look...the states with the most homeless people have sanctuary cities and are ports of entry. :/








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Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 12 2019 04:48pm)

Let's say Trump runs out the undocumented immigrants

What is your plan to get people suffering from addiction, ptsd whether from sexual abuse or war or anything in between, the mentally ill and disabled off of the street which are the leading causes behind the type of homelessness we are talking

You think immigrants are keeping us from housing these people and getting them clean and getting them to consistently show progress to live on their own or in a safe stable environment?

These are very difficult issues to deal with and many will not stay on track. The harsh reality is that many of these people will die on the street and it's not because of our immigration policies it's because of our failures in humanity and sometimes failures by the individual that just took them too far down and they will never get out.

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 12 2019 01:51pm)

So because we have issues that are difficult to solve... we should.... just open our borders to anyone, because they won't put MORE of a drain on available resources. Mmmmk. :/

Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 12 2019 04:53pm)

or you should stop using the homeless with your political bullshit about immigration

they are individuals with individual stories of how they got there

and those stories are a fuck ton more complicated than your view on immigration

Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 12 2019 08:48pm)

Let's say Trump runs out the undocumented immigrants

What is your plan to get people suffering from addiction, ptsd whether from sexual abuse or war or anything in between, the mentally ill and disabled off of the street which are the leading causes behind the type of homelessness we are talking

You think ILLEGAL immigrants are keeping us from housing these people and getting them clean and getting them to consistently show progress to live on their own or in a safe stable environment?

These are very difficult issues to deal with and many will not stay on track. The harsh reality is that many of these people will die on the street and it's not because of our immigration policies it's because of our failures in humanity and sometimes failures by the individual that just took them too far down and they will never get out.

Quote (CarsV @ Jun 12 2019 02:01pm)

Come on, buddy, you can say it. Say it with me. uh-lee-gul

Anyway, they're certainly not helping the homeless situation, now are they?

Question. How many illegal immigrants do you suggest America take in? Give me a ballpark number, anything. All I ever hear from people like you is "we need illegals to do our crummy slave-wage jobs or else we'll have to pay more for avocados!" How many? Do we just let them keep coming until we're like China where there are so many people that the value of human life depreciates until near irrelevancy? What's stopping half of Central and South America's poor to just pack up, show up at our borders, and expect to be subsidized by the American working taxpayer?

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 12 2019 02:00pm)

Well even though the point you just made, is pointless, I'll give another example of people abusing the "system" and in the process, wasting limited resources.
Trans folk signing up for the military, taking an oath as non-trans, then when IN the military they spend the entire time doing nothing more than attempting to get trans surgery for free.

The systems in this country, DO work fairly well, when not abused.


Back to the immigration issue. Are you telling me that California is right, moral, logical...when they pass laws giving free medical to illegals, but not to legal homeless citizens???

Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 12 2019 09:03pm)

Me pushing back against Ghot's bullshit involving the homeless is not an endorsement of undocumented immigration



Thanos snaps his fingers and undocumented immigrants are gone

I want specifics from you to address the issues I brought up. If you want to post unspecific bullshit no need to respond