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Jun 25 2026 09:34pm
Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

When a man named Noah turned 600 years old the flood gates in the firmament opened and water fell down.

Genesis 8:2
Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

A magic wizard shut the magic gates in the magic firmament and water stopped coming from the sky

Make it make sense
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Jun 25 2026 10:04pm
Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

When a man named Noah turned 600 years old the flood gates in the firmament opened and water fell down.

Genesis 8:2
Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

A magic wizard shut the magic gates in the magic firmament and water stopped coming from the sky

Make it make sense


meditate on the blade of grass
Arthur C. Clarke
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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I did provide proof you just mad you cannot do same for your magical jesus.
I wonder how you managed to accept this crap as the truth without question.

1. Genesis 1:14-19 implies God created light on Earth before he made the sun and other stars.
2. Genesis 2:18-20 says Adam named every creature even though less than half of the species we know of had been discovered back then. Ah, yes. Makes perfect sense.

3. Genesis 4:17 makes it clear Cain has a wife even though his mom was the only women alive at the time.

4. Genesis 6:11-13 God kills every living thing because he thinks the world is too violent.

5. Genesis 32:24-30 Jacob wrestled with God and won, apparently

6. Genesis: 41:57 Every country traveled to Egypt for rice. Yep. Every single person in the world went to Egypt for rice.

7. Exodus 4:24-26 God wants to kill Moses. . . because he didn't circumcise his son. Then, as one does, Moses's wife circumcises her son with a sharp rock. A goddamn rock.

8. Exodus 30:37-38 Using God's favorite perfume is punishable by exile.

9. Leviticus 5:14-15 If you commit a sin without knowing it, you gotta kill an unblemished ram.

10. Numbers 24:8 God has the strength of a unicorn.

11. Deuteronomy 10:16 God says to circumcise the foreskin of your heart. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

12. Deuteronomy 23:1 You can't go to church if your penis is damaged.

13. Judges 9:8-15 Trees can talk.

14. 2 Kings 1:9-12 Elijah proves he's a man of God by burning a bunch of men to death with fire from the sky. Because remember kids, murder is only a sin if you're not a man of God.

15. 2 Kings 2:23-24 God sends bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's baldness.

16. Chronicles 18:20-22 God let's a spirit put lies in the mouths of his prophets.

17. Job 2:3-7 God let's Satan torment Job to see his reaction

18. Psalm 148:7 Even Fucking dragons praise God.

19. Proverbs 12:21 Bad things only happen to bad people. I'd love to see someone try to defend this one. Like, "Yes, that child was diagnosed with cancer at age three because he's a bad person."

20. Matthew 19:23:24 Rich people don't go to heaven.


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1. Genesis 1:14-19 implies God created light on Earth before he made the sun and other stars.

your not posting the scripture your just posting your crap assertion


Genesis 1:14-19 describes God creating the sun, moon, and stars to govern day and night and to serve as signs for time and seasons.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day
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meditate on the blade of grass
Arthur C. Clarke
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


What does this have to do with anything? You had your chance to demonstrate how a blade of grass = god and you instead started crying about Dawkins remember?
Stick to the topic this time.

your not posting the scripture your just posting your crap assertion


Genesis 1:14-19 describes God creating the sun, moon, and stars to govern day and night and to serve as signs for time and seasons.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day
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Again what is your point? You are not explaining anything.

Maybe admit that its a fairytale because thats the only way bible makes any sense.
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I will bring you proof in the form of credible witnesses. Let's start with John 1:1-31 ESV.

The Word Became Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; God the only Son, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

The Testimony of John the Baptist

19 And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 So they said to him, “Who are you? We need to give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 (Now they had been sent from the Pharisees.) 25 They asked him, “Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them, “I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know, 27 even he who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany across the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

Behold, the Lamb of God
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”


Lets test this for credibility.
How do you know in the beginning there was "the word" and "the word was god"?
Explain how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?

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For those confused and think exodus story happened here is a video explaining how and why its bullshit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdXitwcs_oQ




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For those confused and think exodus story happened here is a video explaining how and why its bullshit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdXitwcs_oQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdXitwcs_oQ


God is good!

Keep driving into the word!
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Jun 26 2026 07:22am
What does this have to do with anything? You had your chance to demonstrate how a blade of grass = god and you instead started crying about Dawkins remember?
Stick to the topic this time.



Again what is your point? You are not explaining anything.

Maybe admit that its a fairytale because thats the only way bible makes any sense.


what your raging about is the meaning of firmament?
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The Bible describes many wonders of creation, but one of the most fascinating is the firmament.

It appears in the first chapter of Genesis and is mentioned throughout Scripture, but what exactly is it?

Is it just the sky, or is there something deeper behind this word?


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Many have debated its meaning, from ancient scholars to modern scientists, but the best way to understand it is to look at what the Bible itself says.

many debate about it. no longer, we have addone who is going to decide...................

a mere blade of grass has no naturlistic explanation. 'atheist used to demand life some how just poofed into the world (abiogenesis) the progression of science says thats impossible.
in what has become the 'atheist nightmare they are the magic woowoo people

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meditate on the blade of grass
Arthur C. Clarke
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

this beyond your understanding ...............so its magic?

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What does this have to do with anything? You had your chance to demonstrate how a blade of grass = god and you instead started crying about Dawkins remember?
Stick to the topic this time.

i talk about both and you start crying about 'magic


here is a paper i found. but we can throw it away because addone deciides everything now
The Firmament in Scripture—What Does It Really Mean?
October 22, 2023
By Mary Carter
https://bibleboulevard.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-firmament/


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Lets test this for credibility.
How do you know in the beginning there was "the word" and "the word was god"?
Explain how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?


I don't claim to know that because I observed it or because science can directly test it. John is making a theological claim about the eternal nature of Christ, not writing as if he personally watched creation happen.

The reason Christians take John's testimony seriously is because of who John claimed Jesus was, the historical case for Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, and the belief that Scripture is inspired by God.

In other words, I don't start with John 1 and then conclude Christianity is true. I first examine the historical case for Jesus, and if Jesus is who He claimed to be, then His teaching gives authority to Scripture, including John's Gospel.

Out of curiosity, what is your standard for knowing something happened in ancient history? Is eyewitness testimony ever sufficient? If not, what specific criteria would convince you of any unique historical event that cannot be repeated?
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