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Oct 24 2024 04:39pm
Quote (Ghot @ Oct 24 2024 03:36pm)
The lefty call to arms. :D


its literally the conservative dogma
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Oct 24 2024 04:49pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 24 2024 05:29pm)
"some homeless guy" is some good agitprop.


are you incapable of reading the actual news articles?;

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Police arrested Dieter Klofkorn on an unrelated warrant, and said in a press release that, during an interview, he admitted to setting the fire in a mailbox at the Osborn Post Office near the intersection of 7th Avenue and Indian School Road. Klofkorn told police that his actions were not politically motivated, and that he set the fire so he would be arrested and taken to jail, according to police.

He has a history of being unhoused, according to previous reporting from ABC 15.

Klofkorn has been convicted of multiple crimes over the past several years in Maricopa County Superior Court, as well as Phoenix and Scottsdale municipal courts, including indecent exposure, theft and trespassing, according to online court records. Following several of his convictions, Klofkorn repeatedly violated the terms of his probation, which could also get him sent to jail.


This was literally just a homeless guy burning a mailbox in front of police so he could get arrested and get free meals on the taxpayer's dime. It happens all the time.
Meanwhile in Mesa someone stole ballots, filled them out, forged signatures, returned them, and they were counted and went into the pile of anonymous ballots.

One of these is a clear example of voter fraud exploiting the lax security of mail-in ballots. The other is an example of the lax security of mail-in ballots being subject to random and unintentional tampering.
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Oct 24 2024 05:00pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 24 2024 06:49pm)
are you incapable of reading the actual news articles?;



This was literally just a homeless guy burning a mailbox in front of police so he could get arrested and get free meals on the taxpayer's dime. It happens all the time.
Meanwhile in Mesa someone stole ballots, filled them out, forged signatures, returned them, and they were counted and went into the pile of anonymous ballots.

One of these is a clear example of voter fraud exploiting the lax security of mail-in ballots. The other is an example of the lax security of mail-in ballots being subject to random and unintentional tampering.


Nowadays people don't care bout integrity or the rules as long as it benefit them or their feelings. We live in a weird timeline where people believe men can get pregnant. The downside of freedom of speech and participation trophies i guess.
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Oct 24 2024 05:15pm
Conceptually mail-in ballots simply cannot be secure. I don't think its within our technological capabilities right now, at least definitely not with paper

The best case scenario is we can have tamper-evident ballots. Someone intercepts the ballots, fills them out, turns them in- they get counted, but we know they were stolen. Great, we know fraud happened. Maybe we can catch the perpetrator, maybe we can't. It still influences the election results. There's no way to verify how many ballots were stolen or how they were flipped. If the election is within that margin, we can't treat the results as valid.
Someone destroys the ballots before they are received. Maybe we know it happens, maybe we can have them recast in time. Most likely we can't, if it happens close to election day. Maybe we can catch the guy, maybe we can't.
But its also very easy for fraud to simply go undetected. No way to know how many ballots are stolen and cast but not reported. No way to know how many illegal aliens are on the voter rolls,


So hit me with the ideas. How do you actually make vote-in mailing secure. Not just to detect it after it happened and say, oh, too bad, nothing we can do.
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Oct 24 2024 05:21pm
It should be noted that America's voting system contributes to the issue. If you didn't have elections of national importance frequently coming down to ~10k votes or less, these vulnerabilities of mail-in ballots wouldn't be a concern.
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Oct 25 2024 11:23am
ok but who the fuck even is sam tripoli or whatever the fuck...
with early voting in some places opening tomorrow on the 26th...
today on the 25th would have been an ideal date for joe rogan to release his episode today...
and then orange dude doing rally in NY out of all places on sunday
but apparently mofo dont even upload on weekends either? tf is this smh :bonk:
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Oct 28 2024 12:42pm
https://katu.com/news/local/vancouver-ballot-box-seen-smoking-same-morning-as-portland-ballot-box-arson

was it just another homeless man that 'wanted' to go to jail this time? or is this an assault on our democracy?
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