d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Coronavirus Thread
Prev1295296297298299910Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 30,165
Joined: Sep 10 2004
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
Apr 1 2020 07:17am
Quote (Bazi @ 1 Apr 2020 14:39)
The point is you are criticizing others as if your methods are superior but they aren’t. Every metric right now has their pro/con

To so blatantly insult someone for using x flawed metric instead of y flawed metric is moronic (this is you). In actuality one should be looking at the lot of these metrics using them all in tandem while acknowledging deficits of each.


no, you are once again using fallacious logic to create that second part. i criticised someone for using the most simplistic method imaginable - something they did for incredibly petty reasons in the first place.

that does in no reasonable way suggest that i had better methods (even tough i listed some that would be MORE accurate, just to debunk your ridiculous suggestion that rejecting the worst method possible somehow means you either have the perfect method, or that you want to dismiss ALL data - that's just lazy, unnuanced thinking), while repeatedly pointing out that even those more reasonable methods are still incredibly flawed at this point.

so there is really no rational reason for you to get on my dick, just looking at the facts. considering how you've been parroting almost every single one of my points along the way, and the only 'disagreement' were made up conclusions that lack coherence, that makes even less sense. it strongly suggests you have a dog in this fight. that is further supported by the fact that you call explaining why sandra's method is garbage, and why NO method can be accurate at this point, a "blatant insult", when in fact it's just a reality that you repeatedly admitted yourself.

again, rejecting and calling out the dumbest possible approach does in NO way imply that i consider better methods flawless. i made it a point to explicitly clarify that in my posts - so there is really no reason for you to double and triple down on that shitty assumption.
Member
Posts: 57,149
Joined: Nov 7 2009
Gold: 2,195.68
Apr 1 2020 07:25am
Confirmed corona chan at the warehouse I work, I hope I get it soon and die 😌
Member
Posts: 43,761
Joined: Aug 27 2009
Gold: 63,142.89
Apr 1 2020 07:29am
Showerthought:

Humanity has been dealing with contagious diseases for its whole existence. In this context, racism was quite useful as a defense for the species. If basic instinct tells you that there is something intrinsically wrong with mixing races (whether it be skin contact, sexual contact or even being close enough to breathe the same air droplets), then it becomes really hard for any pandemic to wipe out the species. Whenever a new virus comes along, it wipes out at most one group, then runs out of hosts. All the other groups live on in a world without that particular virus.

The reason why a worldwide pandemic is possible now is because the civilized world has realized that racism is bad. Even the most extreme hatemongers who want to wipe out their enemy are willing to send a representative to a crowded U.N. meeting. As it happens, such a meeting is all that would have been required to spread a virus like corona from one tribe to another.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 1 2020 07:34am
Member
Posts: 30,165
Joined: Sep 10 2004
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
Apr 1 2020 07:37am
Quote (Kayeto @ 1 Apr 2020 15:29)
Showerthought:

Humanity has been dealing with contagious diseases for its whole existence. In this context, racism was quite useful as a defense for the species. If basic instinct tells you that there is something intrinsically wrong with mixing races (whether it be skin contact, sexual contact or even being close enough to breathe the same air droplets), then it becomes really hard for any pandemic to wipe out the species. Whenever a new virus comes along, it wipes out at most one group, then runs out of hosts. All the other groups live on in a world without that particular virus.

The reason why a worldwide pandemic is possible now is because the civilized world has realized that racism is bad. Even the most extreme hatemongers who want to wipe out their enemy are willing to send a representative to a crowded U.N. meeting. As it happens, such a meeting is all that would have been required to spread a virus like corona from one tribe to another.


are you from flint, michigan by any chance? something seems to be severely wrong with the water in your shower.

This post was edited by fender on Apr 1 2020 07:37am
Member
Posts: 52,226
Joined: Jan 3 2009
Gold: 8,902.00
Apr 1 2020 07:43am
Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 1 2020 06:16am)
rates don't lead to actual meaningful conclusions until a the bulk of cases have been resolved and the data is tabulated. That won't happen for many months. Right now, it's largely a function of availability of tests. Depending on what criteria is used to select who gets tested, the rates are going to vary wildly.

That's why South Korea's data s so important right now. They tested early and often. They are well past their peak so the bulk of their data is in. The other countries can use that as a best case scenario.


That's why I said "on track to" validate, not "it will validate."

Quote (fender @ Apr 1 2020 06:19am)
yes, i already noticed how you moved the goal post 'adjusted your position' after i mocked you for simplistically comparing death rates on the same date. that's certainly a slightly more meaningful (although still considerably flawed) method. baby steps, i guess.

i still have to point out that it's a petty and ultimately meaningless endeavour as long as developments are still so rapid, and testing (both of active cases, but also deceased with undetermined cause of death - which is a big variable, particularly in countries where tests are scarce) and reporting methods are different.

long story short, you made a pretty big oopsie during an argument, and now you can't admit it, so you resort to #alternative facts.


Except I haven't 'adjusted my position' at all, and I challenge you to quote where I have. You're so fucking delusional.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 1 2020 06:51am)
You are complety out of your mind. :rofl:
I guess this clearly means you realize the massive amount of deads your costly, inequalitarian, healthcare will do.


I'm guessing you have no idea what I actually said.
Member
Posts: 57,901
Joined: Dec 3 2008
Gold: 286.00
Apr 1 2020 07:49am
Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 1 2020 09:29am)
Showerthought:

Humanity has been dealing with contagious diseases for its whole existence. In this context, racism was quite useful as a defense for the species. If basic instinct tells you that there is something intrinsically wrong with mixing races (whether it be skin contact, sexual contact or even being close enough to breathe the same air droplets), then it becomes really hard for any pandemic to wipe out the species. Whenever a new virus comes along, it wipes out at most one group, then runs out of hosts. All the other groups live on in a world without that particular virus.

The reason why a worldwide pandemic is possible now is because the civilized world has realized that racism is bad. Even the most extreme hatemongers who want to wipe out their enemy are willing to send a representative to a crowded U.N. meeting. As it happens, such a meeting is all that would have been required to spread a virus like corona from one tribe to another.


Holy warped worldview. Lol.
Member
Posts: 14,099
Joined: Jul 13 2006
Gold: 83.30
Apr 1 2020 07:51am
Welp, my sister has been confirmed to have Corona after a few days of mild symptoms. Wasn't even supposed to get tested since she had no fever, a colleague lung doc got her test through because she's pregnant.

Complaints were mostly coughing and general sense of tiredness. Also loss of smell. Luckily it seems she's recovering well and her family is doing well too.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 1 2020 10:58am)
Thank you! :)




Do you mean "it would take extraordinary effort to keep our total deaths below 200k, instead of much higher", or do you mean "if we get 200k deaths in the end, that would put tremendous pressure on our system and require extraordinary effort to handle at its peak"?


Do you have loss of smell as well?
Member
Posts: 54,214
Joined: May 26 2005
Gold: 4,945.67
Apr 1 2020 08:01am
Quote (balrog66 @ 1 Apr 2020 15:51)
Welp, my sister has been confirmed to have Corona after a few days of mild symptoms. Wasn't even supposed to get tested since she had no fever, a colleague lung doc got her test through because she's pregnant.

Complaints were mostly coughing and general sense of tiredness. Also loss of smell. Luckily it seems she's recovering well and her family is doing well too.

Do you have loss of smell as well?


No loss of smell.

What I do have is low intestinal activity.

[toomuchinformation]
Have taken a dump just 3 times over the last 17 days despite eating normal amounts...
[/toomuchinformation]
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Apr 1 2020 08:05am
Quote (Santara @ 1 Apr 2020 15:43)
I'm guessing you have no idea what I actually said.


Clumsily trying to argue around the testings and a "death rate per testing".... :huh: ?

A country with 20% of its citizen being afraid to go in debt because of hospitalization is not a an healthcare success during a pandemic...
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82599638&f=119&p=556439694
GL
Member
Posts: 93,031
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,214.94
Apr 1 2020 08:09am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 1 2020 09:05am)
Clumsily trying to argue around the testings and a "death rate per testing".... :huh: ?

A country with 20% of its citizen being afraid to go in debt because of hospitalization is not a an healthcare success during a pandemic...
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82599638&f=119&p=556439694
GL


US healthcare system still more successful than the French egg defense of WW2.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1295296297298299910Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll