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Quote (cambovenzi @ May 28 2019 01:15am)


Why do people on the right struggle so much with the concepts of socialism, communism and marxism?
I mean its ok to be ignorant but why use words so much if you have no idea what they mean?

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Why do people on the right struggle so much with the concepts of socialism, communism and marxism?
I mean its ok to be ignorant but why use words so much if you have no idea what they mean?


Stealing is morally wrong
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Stealing is morally wrong


Ok so the entire concept of society is morally wrong, what now?
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Ok so the entire concept of society is morally wrong, what now?


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There is no two ways about it, if theft is morally wrong and taxation is considered theft then society is morally wrong.
You all support theft and taxation you are just picky about the beneficiaries.
No one is here complaining about subsidies to massive corporations, but if the poor will somehow benefit it instantly becomes "marxism" and theft.
Its a load of crap, its just picking winners and losers, whoever happens to steal the most wins.
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There is no two ways about it, if theft is morally wrong and taxation is considered theft then society is morally wrong.
You all support theft and taxation you are just picky about the beneficiaries.
No one is here complaining about subsidies to massive corporations, but if the poor will somehow benefit it instantly becomes "marxism" and theft.
Its a load of crap, its just picking winners and losers, whoever happens to steal the most wins.




I don't think anyone has issues with helping the poor, aka giving them an equal chance. Equal chances are good... just handing people equivalence is bad.
Equivalence needs to be earned.

Taxation isn't really theft. It's more like a maintenance contract. You pay someone a monthly or yearly amount, and they keep the roads fixed, the other countries from taking your land, etc.
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I don't think anyone has issues with helping the poor, aka giving them an equal chance. Equal chances are good... just handing people equivalence is bad.
Equivalence needs to be earned.

Taxation isn't really theft. It's more like a maintenance contract. You pay someone a monthly or yearly amount, and they keep the roads fixed, the other countries from taking your land, etc.


Equal chance does not exist.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ May 28 2019 03:05am)
Equal chance does not exist.




But it can be created.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ May 28 2019 12:04am)
There is no two ways about it, if theft is morally wrong and taxation is considered theft then society is morally wrong.
You all support theft and taxation you are just picky about the beneficiaries.
No one is here complaining about subsidies to massive corporations, but if the poor will somehow benefit it instantly becomes "marxism" and theft.
Its a load of crap, its just picking winners and losers, whoever happens to steal the most wins.


If its a load of crap then put your money where your mouth is and quit your job
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Quote (EndlessSky @ May 28 2019 08:42pm)
If its a load of crap then put your money where your mouth is and quit your job


Why?
The system works fine for me, in fact i voted conservative.
Calling any assistance to the lower class "marxism" is a load of crap, that does not mean that i should not do the best i can within the current system.
Always look out for number one, i can then look after those closest to me who may not have the same advantages.
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