So trump lost over 1bn and didn’t pay taxes for almost 10 years..?
Am I reading this right orrrrr

just like all "elite businessmen", probably.

Trump may provoke U.S. lawmakers to impeach him: senior Democrat

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-may-provoke-u-s-lawmakers-to-impeach-him-senior-democrat-idUSKCN1SI0DR





Adam is so full of Schiff, that it isn't even funny. Accusing Trump (and the GOP) of dividing the country, when we have the left having hissy fits and demonstrations at Congressional hearings, etc. :/

yeah poor Trump and those sweetheart Republicans certainly haven't heavily contributed to the division, intentionally

Yeah, the evil bastid. Went and beat Hillary. Obviously time to disrupt the US govt. for 2.5 years and counting. :/

I dont know about the "intentionally" part...

Trump has just ripped open the fissures and cracks which had been building under the surface for decades. The american society is characterized by ever-increasing polarization since at least the 90s, in reality probably going back to the 60s.
Trump certainly isnt making things better, but american politics had been divisive, bitter and toxic long before he arrived on the political stage.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 13 2019 10:52am

my post doesn't argue against this

Holding people currently holding power accountable is more important than but but but but but it's always been around

and you also don't have much of a point when you're defending the King birther in the department of division in the country which is easily one of the ethically worst and most maliciously effective (at division) mainstream smear campaigns in modern US history since you've been alive

but but but Russia investigation and calling a President a traitor is bad too

yes that is divisive and harmful to the country as well.

Trump was under investigation and spent every single day (and still does to this very day) throwing fuel on the fire in nearly unbelievable ways at times

Obama overall tried to unite in his message, handled these disgusting attacks against him with grace, and still tripped over himself all the time trying to work with Republicans

both sides benefit from the division, one side more often hits lower and the sucker punches are unabashed and often celebrated and the current President has benefited from it and spent every day of his political career manipulating it to the extreme for which he should be held accountable for what he is doing now, what he is contributing to now, not minimizing it or trying to create a distraction by pointing to a shitty political environment that has always existed

and this isn't even covering all the unnecessary garbage he has spewed during his campaign/term about Mexicans/Muslims/etc/etc

This post was edited by Beowulf on May 13 2019 11:17am

oh yeah, he tried to unite the country by saying things like this:




I mean, is it even humanly possible for a president to make his contempt and disdain for rural/red america any more clear?


or did he try to unite the country by ramming through the ACA on strictly partisan lines even though it made things worse for a substantial amount of people? (which doesnt exclude the possibility that the ACA is a net positive overall - but it produced a lot of losers!)
or what about that 2011 correspondents dinner where he was super smug and gleeful while roasting Trump - the moment in which he probably created a supervillain and jumpstarted the man who would destroy his political legacy?



Obama ran as the great unifier, but in reality, he was a great divider, through both factors out of his control (some people hated him for who he was) and mistakes he made (his arrogant professorial attitude, his decision to deal with the republican blockade strategy using partisan votes and EOs instead of convincing the public of his position and applying pressure on the GOP via the people).

Seriously bro? The President has done nothing wrong except maybe not be very polished.
The Democrats lost what they were positive was a sure thing... and went insane.

That's not even considering the fact that Hillary WAS/IS a crook and was about to get busted.
I can understand being behind one party or another, but absolutely refusing to admit what is/was intrinsically obvious... is just lame. ^^