What a poor simplification of Egypt's rich history.

There is no "simplification" here, just duration associated with geographical nations.

Noticed how some were fucking short.

no, what you FEEL should matter in a given conversation is completely irrelevant to the FACTS presented by the graphic that triggered you guys so badly.

pointing out that someone's interpretation of certain facts does not render them invalid is just basic logic, and you once again managed to fail to understand even that. speaks for itself really.


and while we're talking opinions, it's a very exclusively take to suggest that a country's medical standard somehow compensates for the fact that a significant portion of people simply can't afford treatment, and faces serious debt, bankruptcy, or even death (the results matter, right?) because of it. trying to deflect from that completely avoidable issue by pointing fingers at countries torn by civil war and poverty just exposes that you're well aware of what a failure that is, otherwise you'd look at peer countries...

Pre-Ptolemaic Egypt is the same as Ptolemaic Egypt which is the same as Egypt after the Roman conquest which is the same as Coptic Egypt which is the same as Egypt under the Mohammedans.

Read a history book or two so that you can double check these things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_Human_Development_Index

Compare apples to apples.

The United States is of a scale and size comparable to Europe. So compare our wealthy states to Europe's wealthy states, and our poor states to your poor states.

HDI numbers don't bear your argument out. We have a different method of providing healthcare, but better or worse, the American model has worked best.

This post was edited by bogie160 on May 25 2019 08:53am

Doesnt matter this is not the subject of the graph, stick on your usual ding dong: USA pre-hollywood & pre-coca-cola isnt USA. etc

Fake news. Europe fell a decade ago

The graph is incorrect, which makes it hard to draw any firm conclusion from it.

Is the United States doing well or not? Is European civilization doing well or not? No idea, because the authors don't understand history.

healthcare systems are determined by federal policy, and when you compare america with its peer countries there is no metric by which you can come to the conclusion that your system serves its people better than those countries, that's an outright ridiculous suggestion.

i see how you're pivoting to other metrics and how you're trying to obscure the results by laughably acting like all of europe had a united healthcare system, but that's not any less transparent than the previous deflection attempts by other hacks.
the funny thing is: i know you know how shitty your system is, like a majority of americans in fact. i know you're probably aware that you're being fucked by your politicians, who rather spend the money on wars (to benefit their fossil fuel and defence industry donors), walls, and tax breaks for the rich, while pretending universal healthcare is just not affordable. the problem with a majority of right wingers specifically, and this forum provides ample proof of that on a daily basis, is that you just can't help but make excuses for it - because 'murica. it's the very conditioning republicans use to have their base vote against their own best interest over and over: jingoism and fearmongering works wonders with simple people...

This post was edited by fender on May 25 2019 09:33am