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Oct 22 2023 10:55am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2023 01:29pm)
Do you believe Israel produced fake toddler corpses to show to journalists? What are the logistics of fake desecrated baby corpse staging? Do you go to Hollywood and get prop artists?


No, they didn't need to and that's not how atrocity propaganda works. I understand this is an emotional issue for you as it has become a projection of your struggle against leftist ideology but arguing emotionally and in bad faith isn't going to work against me, it just confirms my beliefs that you have been manipulated into supporting your corrupt dystopian governments imperialistic ambitions.
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Oct 22 2023 11:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ 22 Oct 2023 18:40)
Lying about numbers with evidence contradicting it? Yeah that sure worked for Hamas for about 8 hours


so you've seen evidence of "40 beheaded babies"?
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Oct 22 2023 11:10am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2023 04:11pm)
And Germany/Japan were among the leading nations in the world when it comes to science, technology, culture and prosperity before the outbreak of WW2. They had the social and economic strength to turn into peaceful, prosperous nations and only needed someone to channel their energy into the right direction. Can't say the same about Gaza, or much of the Muslim world if we're being honest.

Simply put, the success of "nation building" that we saw in Germany and Japan was the exception, not the norm. It was a big mistake to expect similar outcomes in Iraq or Afghanistan, and it would be an even bigger mistake to try the same, failed template in Gaza or Iran.


Actually Iran is an exception to what you described. They have thousands of years of consecutive culture and identity. Unlike Iraq, Afghanistan or modern day Palestine.

I'm not suggesting its a given that Iran could be successful, but they have more of the building blocks required. Far more than those other countries.
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Oct 22 2023 11:11am
Quote (JessiWan @ 22 Oct 2023 18:54)
Hi Sirthom,

I also think that 9/11 was an inside job. But I just have a question, why does Israel feel the need to send spies to the States to spy on it? I thought the top brass at the various top-level US intelligence agencies were already all Jews. They could just pass sensitive info to Israel secretly without the latter having to do much.


Imho 9/11 could have been a laissez-faire job at max (and complete incompetence at best) but at this level no entity can afford to make it an "inside" job because it's too risky.
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Oct 22 2023 11:13am
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 22 2023 11:54am)
Hi Sirthom,

I also think that 9/11 was an inside job. But I just have a question, why does Israel feel the need to send spies to the States to spy on it? I thought the top brass at the various top-level US intelligence agencies were already all Jews. They could just pass sensitive info to Israel secretly without the latter having to do much.


Because they are slimy deceivers and they know it.
So, they don't trust themselves.
Ever heard of a self hating jew?
This is why.
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Oct 22 2023 11:20am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 22 2023 04:06pm)
No, the system has been corrupted.
Only a purge will fix it.
I don't see any politician saying this.
Do you?


Brock for president and Paul Heyman for VP.

Drain the swamp one F-5 at a time.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 22 2023 11:21am
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Oct 22 2023 11:24am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 22 2023 12:20pm)
Brock for president and Paul Heyman for VP.

Drain the swamp one F-5 at a time.


Keep voting, your side is going to win... :drool:
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Oct 22 2023 11:43am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2023 09:59am)
I've chatted with a wide assortment about it and not heard anyone complain about the aid to Israel. Plenty of people vocally opposed to more money for Ukraine, but Israel has the same ones heated
I mean its not hard logic to sort out, some foreign quagmire with no real impact on Americans that even the warmongers can only justify because "we're getting Russians killed" which means fuck all benefit to us, versus fighting terrorists who just did a 9/11 scale attack and raped, tortured and murdered dozens of Americans.

The only people I've seen opposed to weapons for Israel right now are the terrorist supporters (not even the sympathizers), and one or two kooky ultra libertarian ronpaulites who think the rest of the world doesn't exist


That is such a pathetic argument. Non-intervention and anti-war have always been unpopular, but to cast it as the opposite is intellectual lazy. It's very reasonable US citizens question the genocide by Israel and the 911 style attack by Hamas. Regardless, the Israel sentiment is stop sending our tax money over, if they need help, send the military do it for them. IDF clearly inept.




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Oct 22 2023 12:30pm
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Oct 22 2023 01:43pm)
That is such a pathetic argument. Non-intervention and anti-war have always been unpopular, but to cast it as the opposite is intellectual lazy. It's very reasonable US citizens question the genocide by Israel and the 911 style attack by Hamas. Regardless, the Israel sentiment is stop sending our tax money over, if they need help, send the military do it for them. IDF clearly inept.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UXSFVwfPhb4/hqdefault.jpg


"Only Sith deal in absolutes" is an absolute. Obi Wan was the villain the entire time.
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Oct 22 2023 01:21pm
I care as much about this as I do ukraine v russia.

I don't care.
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