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May 24 2019 10:26pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 25 2019 03:25pm)
Not really subjective when they are world recognized and are household names in literature. They were household names 15 when I was a kid years ago and they remain the same. They are taught in schools because people recognize their greatness. They remain a top of literature must read because once again people recognize their greatness. Shakespeare is a great regardless if not all his works are equally great.


But is he better than a modern playwrite?
I say no.
I would rather sit through cats than hamlet.
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May 24 2019 10:30pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 24 2019 10:25pm)
Not really subjective when they are world recognized and are household names in literature. They were household names 15 when I was a kid years ago and they remain the same. They are taught in schools because people recognize their greatness. They remain a top of literature must read because once again people recognize their greatness. Shakespeare is a great regardless if not all his works are equally great.


Your argument is

We remember them
Therefore they are the best
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May 24 2019 10:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 24 2019 09:21pm)
I don't think you understand what a professor does lol. Their primary job is to contribute to the field via research. They are able to stand on the shoulders of giants, not necessarily due to intellect, but due to the times.

The same principle applies to authors. They have the ability to learn from their predecessors, be exposed to alternative viewpoints that help with creativity, etc. There's simply no contest.


I fully understand what professors do. I have enough years spent at uni to know that what most of them do is nowhere near as impressive as what the people I'm talking about did.

Literature is art, and that's not how art works. No matter how much some student or professor 'learns' he isn't going to paint like Picasso or going to sculpt and be recognized like Davincis Michelangelo.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 24 2019 09:30pm)
Your argument is

We remember them
Therefore they are the best


No. My argument is the literary world holds a candle to them, rightfully so, and so will i.

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May 24 2019 10:34pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 25 2019 03:31pm)
I fully understand what professors do. I have enough years spent at uni to know that what most of them do is nowhere near as impressive as what the people I'm talking about did.

Literature is art, and that's not how art works. No matter how much some student or professor 'learns' he isn't going to paint like Picasso or going to sculpt and be recognized like Michelangelo.



No. My argument is the literary world holds a candle to them, rightfully so, and so will i.


So what modern authors are you familiar with?
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May 24 2019 10:59pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 24 2019 10:31pm)
No. My argument is the literary world holds a candle to them, rightfully so, and so will i.


Okay, so it's not based on anything about the works. Just that others hold them in high regard, therefore it is merited.

I mean, it's an okay heuristic, but I wouldn't argue with a high degree of confidence on that basis.
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May 24 2019 11:14pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 25 2019 03:59pm)
Okay, so it's not based on anything about the works. Just that others hold them in high regard, therefore it is merited.

I mean, it's an okay heuristic, but I wouldn't argue with a high degree of confidence on that basis.


Shakespear rates 1st with boomers and 8th with millenials, so its already a widening gap.
If kids read more it would be wider :D
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May 24 2019 11:21pm
one punch man is the greatest story of this millennium
i challenge anyone to find a better protagonist
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May 24 2019 11:22pm
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one punch man is the greatest story of this millennium
i challenge anyone to find a better protagonist
https://i.imgur.com/6D5QLhz.png


Now if only the second season would pick up its animation quality
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May 24 2019 11:24pm


I think that if any of you had actually read books, you'd know what the word picture means. As in: "Official Political Picture Thread".






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May 24 2019 11:24pm
Quote (duffman316 @ May 25 2019 04:21pm)
one punch man is the greatest story of this millennium
i challenge anyone to find a better protagonist
https://i.imgur.com/6D5QLhz.png


Its honestly pretty amazing, i look forward to it more than any other show.
Quote (Ghot @ May 25 2019 04:24pm)
I think that if any of you had actually read books, you'd know what the word picture means. As in: "Official Political Picture Thread".






https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aMZ6Bz6_700b.jpg


Gen x are basically millenials.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 24 2019 11:26pm
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