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Feb 21 2018 02:50am
http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/95939817-132.html

Guess there was more than one sociopath at the school that day. The guy set a new record by politicizing the school shooting while it was still an active scene and produced a gun control video while they were still in lockdown

"shots were just fired and we're all still sheltering in place and heard that many students are dead. Sounds like a time for social commentary!

I take my hat off to him, the only way anyone is ever going to beat his record is if they walk up to a gunman with a camera recording and ask him to share his political views
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Feb 21 2018 08:22am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 21 2018 03:50am)
http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/95939817-132.html

Guess there was more than one sociopath at the school that day. The guy set a new record by politicizing the school shooting while it was still an active scene and produced a gun control video while they were still in lockdown

"shots were just fired and we're all still sheltering in place and heard that many students are dead. Sounds like a time for social commentary!

I take my hat off to him, the only way anyone is ever going to beat his record is if they walk up to a gunman with a camera recording and ask him to share his political views


Expecting an 18 year old who just witnessed tremendous violence to act a certain way... seems legit. Clearly the kid was already socially/politically minded as a journalist at the school, it's not hard to imagine why he would discuss gun control in the immediate aftermath.

But hey, anything to deflect the conversation onto the victims. Trump cultism 101.
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Feb 21 2018 08:35am
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 21 2018 08:22am)
Expecting an 18 year old who just witnessed tremendous violence to act a certain way... seems legit. Clearly the kid was already socially/politically minded as a journalist at the school, it's not hard to imagine why he would discuss gun control in the immediate aftermath.

But hey, anything to deflect the conversation onto the victims. Trump cultism 101.


Its not a normal human psychological response to tremendous violence to whip out a camera and immediately start producing social activism. Maybe thats an explicable product of a culture of pervasive vicarious social media in an era when people would sooner pull out their cell phones to record anything they witness and a student already interested in journalism, but its pretty fucked up to be filming that in his classroom while still in the room and on lockdown. If it was in the days and weeks after, thats one thing, but pushing a political agenda while in the midst of it is a new record.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 21 2018 08:36am
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Feb 21 2018 08:46am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 21 2018 09:35am)
Its not a normal human psychological response to tremendous violence to whip out a camera and immediately start producing social activism. Maybe thats an explicable product of a culture of pervasive vicarious social media in an era when people would sooner pull out their cell phones to record anything they witness and a student already interested in journalism, but its pretty fucked up to be filming that in his classroom while still in the room and on lockdown. If it was in the days and weeks after, thats one thing, but pushing a political agenda while in the midst of it is a new record.


Seems pretty normal these days. Look at the Philando Castile shooting, his girlfriend basically recorded her boyfriend dying. Look at the videos from the classrooms where SWAT come in... half the kids have their phones out recording. It doesn't seem strange at all for someone his age to start recording after the gunfire stops. A politically minded and cerebral person thinking about gun control in the immediate aftermath of a shooting seems normal as well. I'd probably have similar thoughts in the same situation.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 21 2018 06:35am)
Its not a normal human psychological response to tremendous violence to whip out a camera and immediately start producing social activism. Maybe thats an explicable product of a culture of pervasive vicarious social media in an era when people would sooner pull out their cell phones to record anything they witness and a student already interested in journalism, but its pretty fucked up to be filming that in his classroom while still in the room and on lockdown. If it was in the days and weeks after, thats one thing, but pushing a political agenda while in the midst of it is a new record.


well, to be fair they were cornered in a room. unarmed and sitting ducks. if someone wants to record something, while in the only safe location in the room, i see no reason why it would be looked down upon
i think it's important and fine to record, if you are not a burden to others safety?

not like they could do anything if they already barricaded/locked the door.

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Feb 21 2018 08:49am
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well, to be fair they were cornered in a room. unarmed and sitting ducks. if someone wants to record something, while in the only safe location in the room, i see no reason why it would be looked down upon
i think it's important and fine to record, if you are not a burden to others safety?

not like they could do anything if they already barricaded/locked the door.


In normal humans, you sit, you wait, and the minutes feel like hours and plenty rushes through your head. Whispering and sharing updates and consoling and anger and panic and all those other sorts of normal reactions. Rehearsing your lines for what to say on TV and figure how to exploit it for a social agenda, well thats something new
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In normal humans, you sit, you wait, and the minutes feel like hours and plenty rushes through your head. Whispering and sharing updates and consoling and anger and panic and all those other sorts of normal reactions. Rehearsing your lines for what to say on TV and figure how to exploit it for a social agenda, well thats something new


keep misrepresenting what actually happened, keep deflecting, keep spinning, and keep pretending only your opinion of what is acceptable and what is not in such a situation is valid... but your disgusting attempt to discredit the victims because you disagree with their message is as obvious as it could be...
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Feb 21 2018 09:54am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 21 2018 06:57am)
In normal humans, you sit, you wait, and the minutes feel like hours and plenty rushes through your head. Whispering and sharing updates and consoling and anger and panic and all those other sorts of normal reactions. Rehearsing your lines for what to say on TV and figure how to exploit it for a social agenda, well thats something new


yes i agree, i was more referring to your point about recording

however, there was another kid who was actually in a room that was shot at, and he explained his mental illness views on CNN, no one is talking about him lol

it's just CNN and the news media will prob give that kid you're talking about more attention, because of his views that align with them. this will translate into a "conspiracy" that the kid is used as a prop, etc. which is not really true imho

but im giving the kid the benefit of the doubt, because i've seen those kids in highschool before

with that said: if there is evidence he is shilling, i am more than happy to take a look

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Feb 21 2018 09:59am
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Feb 21 2018 10:02am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 21 2018 10:57am)
In normal humans, you sit, you wait, and the minutes feel like hours and plenty rushes through your head. Whispering and sharing updates and consoling and anger and panic and all those other sorts of normal reactions. Rehearsing your lines for what to say on TV and figure how to exploit it for a social agenda, well thats something new


Emotional honesty is something you cant learn from modern public schools or the 24/7 media brainwashing, and having two parents to do the job is no longer guaranteed thanks to the left
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Feb 21 2018 10:06am
Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Feb 21 2018 04:54pm)
yes i agree, i was more referring to your point about recording

however, there was another kid who was actually in a room that was shot at, and he explained his mental illness views on CNN, no one is talking about him lol

it's just CNN and the news media will prob give that kid you're talking about more attention, because of his views that align with them. this will translate into "conspiracy" that the kid is used as a prop, etc.


I wonder if anyone thinks that he's just a kid, trying to do his best to stop this from happening in the future. If I'd be in his shoes, I'd like to make the most of it as well, I'd be extremely anxious for being on national tv. I would have needed some help to bring the message more convincing to the audience. So even though it was rehearsed, you can't automatically say he did this over the bodies of dead classmates for a political agenda.. Politically speaking this is one needle found in the haystack of the story told by all the students, not just this one.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Feb 21 2018 10:07am
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