Lol

Hell, I know more oriental people than you know Indians.

I didnt say that this was what would be guaranteed to happen, I just say that I consider it a real possibility.
And yes, I know that Trump's Democratic successor will be keen to eradicate everything Trump. But there is plenty of other legislation and EOs with Trump's name on them that they can revoke to satisfy the Democratic base and get the desired news coverage.

IF, and yes, this is a very big if, the tariffs show signs of working, there would be no pressing substantial reason to eliminate them. Of course I am operating under the assumption that a Democratic president would also recognize the strategic conflict with China and put progress on this issue ahead of partisan pettiness.

The conflict with China is just too big and serious of an issue to mess with it out of domestic, partisan spite. If the president who comes after Trump would be foolish enough to do that, then China has already won anyway.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 22 2019 03:18pm

Well said, grasshopper.

you have me mistaken, i know that you're saying it's just a possibility. even that is abjectly ridiculous to me.

a democrat carrying on Trump tariffs on china. if ghot didn't say china was trading with russia and that is a win for the USA i'd call it the craziest thing i've read all day.


but instead of just sniping let me ask. what to you would be a sign so strong that it's "working" that a democrat would ignore the partisan reaction to supporting an anti-free trade measure. what sign would there be that it's so effective at "winning" against china that they'd ignore how the public would react to them siding with Trump. China having an economic collapse? China buying oil from Russia? China starting to finance soy bean production in Brazil? China growing increasingly more self sufficient?

because that's where tariffs lead in the next 4 years. now some ground breaking progress that makes it clear to America that tariffs are a winning strategy. the very idea that tariffs against china can work in a "winning" fashion on a 4-8 year time table is fucking stupid. people who bought that ocean front property in kansas are fucking stupid. people who think that a lifetime emperor in all but name can't wait out 4 years of Trump tariffs while trading elsewhere are fucking stupid.

i'm not tho. i'm smart. and i realize they will be ready for the first 100 days of the democratic winner in 2024 to remove the tariff packages that Trump was too ineffectual to get congress to make into real hard to squash legislation. the chinese know this, because i know this. and i'm just a random guy and they're a worldwide almost champion govt.

this oil tariff feint is to harden the resolve of idiots who support tariffs to make them think they're working. and SHOCKER look what ghot thinks on the matter. when you find yourself agreeing with the old man reevaluate. fast.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 22 2019 03:30pm

democratic president announces "no more tariffs, they're all gone, TRUMP BAD"

china announces "a win for free trade, we will be spending XX billion in the USA as a result"

done. over. ez win.

if you think ANYTHING but that will happen you're insane. not even over a 1% chance of that not happening, and the 1% shit isnt worth our keystrokes.

Let's get down to basics. If we alloow the current situation to continue, aka, most countries putting tariffs on our trade goods, and us NOT doing the same... we will eventually lose.
Doesn't matter if the Reps or Dems have the presidency, doesn't matter w/e point you are trying to make, is... it's just numbers.

When you boil away all the politics, tariffs are just a form of slow burn socialism. Tariffs as they existed pre-Trump.

There should either be no tariffs anywhere from any country, or all countries should impose them, equally. Tariffs are really only useful if you want to hurt another country.
There is no situation where tariffs should exist when you are not trying to hurt another country or countries.

It's almost as if Trump is doing exactly as he claimed he would do. Changing things so that the US is not always on the wrong end of almost every trade deal and treaty.

1. tariffs main uses are to protect domestic productions and/or to hurt foreign import business. to claim they have one purpose is a fail in basic economics.

2. the idea that we're "losing" on trade isn't a fact, its another fail in basic economics.

only people who are unintelligent with no understanding of math and economics think what you just posted. there is an intellectual argument that its to cut down on intellectual property theft, but that's equally as unpragmatic in a presidential tariff system to combat.

people like you jump from "there's a problem" straight to "i'm right because my plan addresses a problem" without any of the math. we get it tho. math is hard.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 22 2019 04:00pm

Dude, I got news for ya. Just coz you claim something doesn't mean it's true. Get over yourself. :/
You're not trying to make any point, you're just rambling.



Most countries have tariffs on US goods. It's almost like they think they are worth more than we are.
If they want free medical, free college etc., then they can pay for it. It's long past time that we allow tariffs on OUR trade goods to keep other countries economies afloat.

Every trade agreement we were in was detrimental to us. Time for that shyt to stop. You wanna pay for other countries frills...then YOU do it. Leave the rest of us out of it.
We don't OWE anyone, anything.

Time for you to wake up and smell the BS you've been fed and are regurgitating all over this forum.

how ironic. a post after you said the US loses on trade, as a statement. lol, self own.



google "competitive advantage". then realize the USA has it over almost every country on almost every good. they need to bolster certain industries at times for domestic jobs for people. otherwise there are no jobs. because they cant compete with us in the world wide economy.



unproven statement of fact, self own 2. shocker....



irony version 3.

you think as much as the gum on my shoe past what you're told lol. this is line for line trump rhetoric. you've done zero thinking, only absorption. too hard to think for ya? yeah we get it.