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Quote (Ghot @ May 22 2019 01:14pm)
It'll just get sold to China "through" other countries. Just like China did with all the surplus steel they had when those tariffs went into place.
If, atm, China is happy buying oil from Russia... that's fine. It won't last though.


any reasons? because they can produce it cheaper than in the US, and they have a long term deal with the Venezuelans. in Ven and Rus the environmental regulations, worker compensation, and land price is tiny compared to the US. Both Rus and Ven are far less diverse economies and can specialize more to drive price down as well as the GDP being lower across the board so they can handle a far lower natural price floor.

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/e Assuming China would not "hit back" is silly. But it's still a win for Trump... the US crude will still get sold.


i neither said they "would not hit back" nor that the crude would enter surplus.

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any reasons? because they can produce it cheaper than in the US, and they have a long term deal with the Venezuelans. in Ven and Rus the environmental regulations, worker compensation, and land price is tiny compared to the US. Both Rus and Ven are far less diverse economies and can specialize more to drive price down as well as the GDP being lower across the board so they can handle a far lower natural price floor.




Well, atm, we don't even know if Venezuela is gonna continue to exist much longer. :D
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Well, atm, we don't even know if Venezuela is gonna continue to exist much longer. :D


venezuala is a tertiary factor. they're #11. russia is #2. and produces 5x as much. and Ven is only one of Rus's oil producing allies.

you should do some reading instead of trying to find something wrong about what i'm saying so you can keep on the "Trump win" train. i even posted you links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

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venezuala is a tertiary factor. they're #11. russia is #2. and produces 5x as much. and Ven is only one of Rus's oil producing allies.

you should do some reading instead of trying to find something wrong about what i'm saying so you can keep on the "Trump win" train. i even posted you links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production




Oil production is one thing... proven oil reserves is quite another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

China doesn't like Russia, so buying from them instead of us... IS a win for Trump. As for Venezuela, I guess will have to wait and see who... (Russia or China) takes over the country first.




Don't accuse me of your modus operandi. :)
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Oil production is one thing... proven oil reserves is quite another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

China doesn't like Russia, so buying from them instead of us... IS a win for Trump. As for Venezuela, I guess will have to wait and see who... (Russia or China) takes over the country first.




Don't accuse me of your modus operandi. :)


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Awww... you made a meme. LOL

Too bad it only sells YOUR viewpoint. :)
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Quote (Ghot @ May 22 2019 01:30pm)
Awww... you made a meme. LOL

Too bad it only sells YOUR viewpoint. :)


i bet when your crush in middle school got a bf before she even knew you liked her you called it a "big win". afterall, once she sees how bad of a guy he is for a few years she'll be ready for the plucking. you've got time anyways, you said then. now only regrets. only pain.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 22 2019 01:32pm)
how exactly is it good for trump or the US if china is trading with russia?


its all "they'll realize we're good once they lose us" mentality. no logic, no math, just feelings.

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Say what? LOL
Stooping to insults already? LOL


it's a direct comparison of this situation. not shocked it woooooshed u tho.

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Awww... you made a meme. LOL

Too bad it only sells YOUR viewpoint. :)


how exactly is it good for trump or the US if china is trading with russia?
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i bet when your crush in middle school got a bf before she even knew you liked her you called it a "big win". afterall, once she sees how bad of a guy he is for a few years she'll be ready for the plucking. you've got time anyways, you said then. now only regrets. only pain.



Say what? LOL
Stooping to insults already? LOL


/e

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 22 2019 03:32pm)
how exactly is it good for trump or the US if china is trading with russia?




China doesn't really WANT to trade with Russia. So it's like a delayed ace in the hole for Trump. He will be able to use it as a "trade token" in the future.

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Quote (Ghot @ May 22 2019 01:34pm)
Say what? LOL
Stooping to insults already? LOL


/e





China doesn't really WANT to trade with Russia. So it's like a delayed ace in the hole for Trump. He will be able to use it as a "trade token" in the future.


so china cant wait 4 years and trade with Russia for 4 years? lol

this is the thing u neanderthals never got. Trump's "long game" has an expiration date and he's up against a guy who made himself lifetime ruler.

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