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Quote (thesnipa @ May 22 2019 01:32pm)
does anyone call it a constitutional right? it's a "natural right", and natural rights are and should be protected by the constitution.

guns aren't a natural right, they're a modern invention. infanticide isn't, it's incredibly old and at time was so pervasive it actually threatened populations.

i rate that picture a ghot level meme.


https://nypost.com/2019/05/15/bernie-sanders-calls-abortion-a-constitutional-right/

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the constitution says nothing about abortion but explicitly mentions the right to bear arms.
One is clearly and explicitly a constitutional right that they oppose, while they try to use 'constitutional right' to support other policies.
It exposes a clear hypocrisy and logical shortcoming.

you can rate it whatever you want, but your logic for doing so was weak.
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https://nypost.com/2019/05/15/bernie-sanders-calls-abortion-a-constitutional-right/

295k bots and npcs liked it

the constitution says nothing about abortion but explicitly mentions the right to bear arms.
One is clearly and explicitly a constitutional right that they oppose, while they try to use 'constitutional right' to support other policies.
It exposes a clear hypocrisy and logical shortcoming.

you can rate it whatever you want, but your logic for doing so was weak.


well i dont like being proven dead wrong, but at least it's only because of near braindead left wing extremists.

to be honest it sounded so dumb it seemed like an entirely made up strawman for the meme. but being attatched to a Bernie quote raises it from a Ghot level meme to the types "lol" but never laughs irl level.
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well i dont like being proven dead wrong, but at least it's only because of near braindead left wing extremists.

to be honest it sounded so dumb it seemed like an entirely made up strawman for the meme. but being attatched to a Bernie quote raises it from a Ghot level meme to the types "lol" but never laughs irl level.


In related news, Alyssa Milano, Castro, Biden, Warren, Barbara Lee and Hirono also declared it a constitutional right while opposing other constitutional rights
Must have been passed around in the lefty talking points memo just like 'easter worshippers'
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In related news, Alyssa Milano, Castro, Biden, Warren, Barbara Lee and Hirono also declared it a constitutional right while opposing other constitutional rights
Must have been passed around in the lefty talking points memo just like 'easter worshippers'


i can for sure see them trying to raise the narrative that the constitution should preserve "natural rights" over "man made rights".

they'd have to do some pretty morose explaining of the history of infanticide that might not fly in public discourse but.... i could see it.

gay rights, abortion, right to die, etc. can see that all being calculated for those issues. while also cutting against gun rights. so win win for bernie and the comrades.
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why tariff a good they no longer buy from us?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-enterprise-prodt-crude-china/china-not-signing-deals-to-buy-u-s-crude-oil-enterprise-ceo-idUSKCN1SR2BY

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In the first half of 2018, China was the biggest importer of U.S. crude, averaging 377,000 bpd. In the six months ended February, the most recent data available, it has dropped to 41,600 bpd, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.


Trump put a 25% tariff on a large number of goods. So China put a 25% tariff on oil in the hopes it would rile up people in the rust belt. And due to the tariff and the decrease in Russian oil price, due not only to the stagnant Russian economy and a deal with Venezuala they divested in importing US oil.

as anyone can see from a quick google search, in 2018 we got destroyed in the Chinese import market on oil:

http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-15-crude-oil-suppliers-to-china/

we're #10 in fact. when pre-2018 we sold them about 9x more oil per day.

them removing the tariff isn't a signal they're going to buy US oil, aka a "Trump big win", as the Reuters article says. It's actually a sign that they're finally divested enough in US oil, and by extension invested in Russian-Venezuelan oil, that the tariff is ineffectual. "But why drop an ineffectual tariff". because it shows they're reasonable and trying to work with the US, even though they aren't.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 22 2019 01:09pm
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why tariff a good they no longer buy from us?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-enterprise-prodt-crude-china/china-not-signing-deals-to-buy-u-s-crude-oil-enterprise-ceo-idUSKCN1SR2BY



Trump put a 25% tariff on a large number of goods. So China put a 25% tariff on oil in the hopes it would rile up people in the rust belt. And due to the tariff and the decrease in Russian oil price due not only to the stagnant Russian economy and a deal with Venezuala they divested in importing US oil.

as anyone can see from a quick google search, in 2018 we got destroyed in the Chinese import market on oil:

http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-15-crude-oil-suppliers-to-china/

we're #10 in fact. when pre-2018 we sold them about 9x more oil per day.

them removing the tariff isn't a signal they're going to buy US oil, aka a "Trump big win", as the Reuters article says. It's actually a sign that they're finally divested enough in US oil, and by extension to invested in Russian-Venezuelan oil, that the tariff is ineffectual. "But why drop an ineffectual tariff". because it shows they're reasonable and trying to work with the US, even though they aren't.




It'll just get sold to China "through" other countries. Just like China did with all the surplus steel they had when those tariffs went into place.
If, atm, China is happy buying oil from Russia... that's fine. It won't last though.


/e Assuming China would not "hit back" is silly. But it's still a win for Trump... the US crude will still get sold.

This post was edited by Ghot on May 22 2019 01:15pm
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