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Quote (Santara @ 1 Apr 2020 04:14)
*pro tip: current rates are the only ones we've got. I haven't moved any goals, and have been consistent in my assertion. We aren't going to be as bad as France.


pro tip: if all we've got is a shitty metric, don't use it trying to make a point. all it does is prove that you don't have a good argument to back up your prediction.
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pro tip: if all we've got is a shitty metric, don't use it trying to make a point. all it does is prove that you don't have a good argument to back up your prediction.


Is Your argument is data we have is incomplete so let’s not use any data?

If no, what data are you using to compare countries?

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Quote (Santara @ 1 Apr 2020 04:14)
*pro tip: current rates are the only ones we've got. I haven't moved any goals, and have been consistent in my assertion. We aren't going to be as bad as France.


death rate per million, okay
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Good steam bundle for those interested, proceeds go to charity.

https://www.humblebundle.com/conquer-covid19-bundle

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Quote (Bazi @ 1 Apr 2020 04:26)
Is Your argument is data we have is incomplete so let’s not use any data?

If no, what data are you using to compare countries?


do i actually have to explain that? i genuinely assumed that to a reasonably intelligent person this would be obvious and simple enough to figure out based on what i already posted. well, ok then, let me get my crayons real quick. here we go:

a more adequate and meaningful comparison between two countries would be to look at their development at similar stages (for example: x days after y cases were confirmed / relative growth x days after certain measures were implemented), or to look at the doubling time (interval between the doubling of cases or deaths for example) - and in any case it makes a lot of sense to keep in mind that different reporting and testing methods influence that rate in a not insignificant way.


my main point, and i don't think i could have been any clearer on this, is that simply comparing two death rates from the same date, in the midst of a rapidly developing pandemic, is moot - and only really 'useful' to make a cheap and superficial claim without any substantive value.

pointing that out does NOT mean "let's not use any data". that's just poor logic...
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Mar 31 2020 09:53pm
What sites are people using to keep track? I've been using this https://mackuba(dot)eu/corona/
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Quote (fender @ Mar 31 2020 10:15pm)
do i actually have to explain that? i genuinely assumed that to a reasonably intelligent person this would be obvious and simple enough to figure out based on what i already posted. well, ok then, let me get my crayons real quick. here we go:

a more adequate and meaningful comparison between two countries would be to look at their development at similar stages (for example: x days after y cases were confirmed / relative growth x days after certain measures were implemented), or to look at the doubling time (interval between the doubling of cases or deaths for example) - and in any case it makes a lot of sense to keep in mind that different reporting and testing methods influence that rate in a not insignificant way.


my main point, and i don't think i could have been any clearer on this, is that simply comparing two death rates from the same date, in the midst of a rapidly developing pandemic, is moot - and only really 'useful' to make a cheap and superficial claim without any substantive value.

pointing that out does NOT mean "let's not use any data". that's just poor logic...



the point, is that every metric you can come up with is going to be skewed at this point, including the ones you have listed

both doubling time and mortality rates/#of cases at similar stages each have major flaws as well, and are as trivial as comparing mortality rates

the reality is each of these metrics is flawed in some capacity, but by acknowledging what the limitations of each metric are you can still use them in some fashion

again, I challenge you to find a metric you can use country to country that is not flawed (if you are hanging on doubling time or comparing mortality rates at similar stages, I would be happy to break down why those are as inherently flawed as raw mortality rates). even normalized data which you didn't even list has its deficits

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Your Momma:


co-videos 19, The end of reality '19' orrr...


The Toilet paper virus whore-ding & what it represents:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC246196/

Toilet Paper Virus is the fun-gal calcification of the pineal gland & control of humanity now via 5g millimeter wavelengths or military crowd control sound weaponry ensured by
the same sunlight blocking & fungus cultivating mold of the sky pseudonym or coined concept known as chemtrails/contrails.

When Former head of FCC Wheeler said he wanted 5g to microchip/number the whole world this meant humans as well, & so

While duping the masses with the kabuki theatre of drunken immorality that is the white noise of everything reality has to offer to a captive soul,
they were spraying above, entertaining with sports, games, & fake american-esque dreams. Spraying below the food supply, & halogenizing the tap, & inevitably signing bills to install 100+ billion dollars worth of tax payers money into 5g tech to capitalize trillions off the Pan-Demise & subjugation of humanity & the light there of which unknowingly gave it to them.

Desguised In D'skies the truth is always hidden in 'plain' site but those with a thorn in their eye cannot see, hear, or understand the truth unfortunately.







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China revealed the asymptomatic numbers, more than 1000 people tested positive, adults.
Yet I think the worse is coming, not in the next week's, but after. I really hope the vaccine will be available early.
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Mar 31 2020 11:53pm)
What sites are people using to keep track? I've been using this https://mackuba(dot)eu/corona/




Scroll down a bit at this site...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If you click on USA, you can see the stats for each state.



/e Other good ones...

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6



In the US you can check your County's Social Distancing Scorecard as well. Click on your State, then click on your County...

https://www.unacast.com/covid19/social-distancing-scoreboard







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