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Apr 16 2019 10:46am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 16 2019 11:38am)
the details are tricky, but roughly 61% of americans were non-hispanic whites in mid 2016, and 77% were whites including white latinos.
african americans make up 12.7% of your population, and they are overwhelmingly families who have been living in the country for generations and are culturally integrated. (albeit economically and socially discriminated and underprivileged.)


so the share of persons who have both an at least somewhat different cultural background and whose families have migrated to the US since ww2 make up at the very most 27%, probably closer to 20% or so. (there are latinos living in the US since the 19th century...)

so thats not as far off from the numbers in some western european countries as it might seem at first glance. and the bulk of your recent immigrants are latinos, which are culturally a lot closer to you than our african and arab immigrants are to the european culture and values.


African Americans have a murder rate seven times higher than any other race. They are far from integrated and your argument will fall apart no matter how many circles you spin it in.
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Apr 16 2019 10:49am
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African Americans have a murder rate seven times higher than any other race. They are far from integrated and your argument will fall apart no matter how many circles you spin it in.


What's the number if you factor in education and income?

I dont say that blacks dont have higher crime rates even if you factor in this stuff, but its still important to put things into perspective.
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Apr 16 2019 11:00am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 16 2019 10:49am)
What's the number if you factor in education and income?

I dont say that blacks dont have higher crime rates even if you factor in this stuff, but its still important to put things into perspective.


endless has been given nuance and perspective 100 times. here he is rewriting the definition of integrated and ignoring things he's been told 100 times.

gosh it's almost as if he's just a racist who doesn't actually know much of anything on racial topics due to a willful ignorance he's employing out of laziness.

weren't you here in the Ferguson era? or did u roll in in 2015-16? because we had 200 pages of nuance, but endless saw a pic of looting so his mind is made up. always has been, always will be.

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Apr 16 2019 11:05am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 16 2019 11:49am)
What's the number if you factor in education and income?

I dont say that blacks dont have higher crime rates even if you factor in this stuff, but its still important to put things into perspective.


Better but not the same. Single motherhood is probably a factor too.

By bottom line is the notion that demographics with historic poverty and underperformance aren't a large factor of what makes America worse for those same demographics is somewhat silly.

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endless has been given nuance and perspective 100 times. here he is rewriting the definition of integrated and ignoring things he's been told 100 times.

gosh it's almost as if he's just a racist who doesn't actually know much of anything on racial topics due to a willful ignorance he's employing out of laziness.

weren't you here in the Ferguson era? or did u roll in in 2015-16? because we had 200 pages of nuance, but endless saw a pic of looting so his mind is made up. always has been, always will be.


Welcome back, friend!!!

You missed me becoming transgender woke. My testes are now a vagine.

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endless has been given nuance and perspective 100 times. here he is rewriting the definition of integrated and ignoring things he's been told 100 times.

gosh it's almost as if he's just a racist who doesn't actually know much of anything on racial topics due to a willful ignorance he's employing out of laziness.

weren't you here in the Ferguson era? or did u roll in in 2015-16? because we had 200 pages of nuance, but endless saw a pic of looting so his mind is made up. always has been, always will be.


I only started reading and contributing to PaRD on a regular basis in late 2017...

Quote (EndlessSky @ 16 Apr 2019 19:05)
Better but not the same. Single motherhood is probably a factor too.

By bottom line is the notion that demographics with historic poverty and underperformance aren't a large factor of what makes America worse for those same demographics is somewhat silly.


In my humble opinion, it is equally silly to claim that "blacks are not responsible for their statistically bad situation at all" as it is to claim that "they and they alone bear all the blame".
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Apr 16 2019 11:16am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 16 2019 12:09pm)
In my humble opinion, it is equally silly to claim that "blacks are not responsible for their statistically bad situation at all" as it is to claim that "they and they alone bear all the blame".


Assuming that they don't bare the blame will make their situation worse. This is historically how the ecology plays out.
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Apr 16 2019 11:17am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 16 2019 11:09am)
I only started reading and contributing to PaRD on a regular basis in late 2017...



In my humble opinion, it is equally silly to claim that "blacks are not responsible for their statistically bad situation at all" as it is to claim that "they and they alone bear all the blame".


ahh i see.

well if you can think of a list 100 items long of problems in the black community endless will with a straight face tell you 99 of them are all the blacks fault.

let's break the 4th wall meta here a bit. i've talked to him on about 3-4 days a week for almost 10 years. he's a racist, and irredeemable racist. towards blacks anyways. he is the kind of guy who could get his entire family saved by a black person and not change his opinion one bit. when leftist try to weaponize the word racist they're doing it because he exists. his ilk are bad people. it might be because their parents taught them that way, which creates a whole level of irony when he discounts familial learning in the black community while expressing it personally. but he is a racist. top to bottom. all 5 feet 1 inches.
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Apr 16 2019 11:19am
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ahh i see.

well if you can think of a list 100 items long of problems in the black community endless will with a straight face tell you 99 of them are all the blacks fault.

let's break the 4th wall meta here a bit. i've talked to him on about 3-4 days a week for almost 10 years. he's a racist, and irredeemable racist. towards blacks anyways. he is the kind of guy who could get his entire family saved by a black person and not change his opinion one bit. when leftist try to weaponize the word racist they're doing it because he exists. his ilk are bad people. it might be because their parents taught them that way, which creates a whole level of irony when he discounts familial learning in the black community while expressing it personally. but he is a racist. top to bottom. all 5 feet 1 inches.


Hes also a nazi.
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Apr 16 2019 11:20am
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Hes also a nazi.


nah you have a soft spot for Israel like all the other holier-than-thou Christians of the forum. i bet you even list moving the embassy as a top 10 accomplishment for Trump.
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Apr 16 2019 11:22am
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nah you have a soft spot for Israel like all the other holier-than-thou Christians of the forum. i bet you even list moving the embassy as a top 10 accomplishment for Trump.


Its definitely wasn't Clinton's top accomplishment.

The way I see it we both have the same long term goal for historically disadvantaged communities. We just disagree about how to get there. You are also wrong.
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