Quote (Knoppie @ 13 Feb 2019 21:27)
It's a bit of a shame that there is to much to break down within this post to come to a sensible discussion in relation to the article posted. And it's gonna require page and page of interaction with more research than I'd like to do on the subject and German law.
Total number of applications versus those in the country at a specific time, your sentence isn't clear on what the number is about.
All those with a protection status from that time. I think we (almost) call them all refugees, combined with a few other protection status' in lower numbers during that wave.. About the 44% acceptance in 2017 to get a status ? How many refugees were declined getting asylum, are still in the country and how many of those are eligible to work?
I'll give you that employment is in many cases partially subsidized as part of the integration process, overall the numbers are not showing the independent refugee percentage, but getting them to work is a part of the integration process. Those numbers going up is good news, other problems aside.
the term "refugees" is commonly used to denote a variety of different legal statuses:
- approved as refugee according to German asylum laws (these cases make up just 2-6% of all the 'refugees' (in the umbrella-term meaning) in Germany)
- approved as refugee according to European asylum laws
- approved as refugee according to the Geneva Convention on Refugees
- admitted into the country via a resettlement program
- admitted into the country via a family reunification ticket
- rejected asylum seeker who was granted the weaker "subsidiary protection status" (granted for example to the majority of asylum seekers who claim to be from syria)
- rejected asylum seeker who is technically obliged to leave the country, but was given a suspension of deportation by the authorities
- rejected asylum seeker who is imminently obliged to leave the country
it's a huge clusterfuck...
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the 1.7m refugees (in the umbrella-term meaning of the word) that the German Employment Agency was talking about in this press release referred to persons who were present in the country at the time and who hailed form one of the eight main countries of origin. in general, the total number of refugees in the country is at least as high as the number of applications, for two reasons.
first, almost no one who came since the summer of 2015 has left the country, deportations have been miniscule for this group of asylum seekers. (minor sidenote on why I emphasize the "since the summer of 2015" part: there was some success in deporting blatant fortune seekers/economic migrants from the Balkan states who came to Germany in late 2014 and the first half of 2015. since their home countries are either in the EU or want to play nice with the EU, we were able to send most of them back home. since the summer of 2015, the vast majority of asylum seekers coming to germany have been from the muslim world or africa.)
second, there are occasions where several people come into the country with just one asylum application, for example in cases of family reunifications. there have been cases where a syrian man who had come to germany filed for family reunification, and thus brought in his entire core family of 8 or so persons - but this procedure was showing up in the statistics as one single application. combined with the almost non-existing deportation rate for non-european asylum seekers, the total number of refugees in the country can safely be assumed to be higher than the number of asylum applications; but in any case, it's at the very least as high.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 13 2019 03:12pm