People cooperating together to complete important tasks massive in scale is so spooky

Sorry, while I work in a private non-profit, we work with the government a lot on a lot of things, particularly funding for certain organizations within our organizations umbrella, like Planned Parenthood, a lot of our substance recovery homes, assisted living for MRDD, and I think some of the afterschool programs we fund gets some govt cheese too....in all my interactions with the bureaucrats within the government, who are generally docile, overweight, pedantic, and overall passive, have I been creeped out, or threatened by them in a way to imply that they could ever be capable of oppressing me or even the cats they live with.

Governments reflect the people. Shitty people have shitty governments. I personally don't think the American government is shitty. I've been studying the system for awhile now, love participating in it now that I understand it well enough, and while it is slow in working, I would hate to see a government that did things quickly.

not sure what to say to this because i'm not sure why you posted it. you know well enough in that quote stirner isn't talking about individuals oppressing each other.

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Skinned only read and studied German ideology, he's never read ego i don't think.

>reads "all things are nothing to me"
but what about the things?!?

I'm pretty strong in Western philosophy until you really start getting into symbolic logic...and I can do propositional and (some) predicate logic, I can do complete classic syllogisms with the argument letter and type correctly, proofs of all sorts, including bi-conditional (immoral logic) proofs, Boolean language, . I started to stumble in Frege's Language but that was at the end of the last semester of my last logic class so I can live without suffering through that. Also I didn't have a lot of time toward the end of my undergrad, so I was taking more and more classes online....the logic series was one of these...I taught myself out of a book with two visits to the professor to help me out...I wish I had time to make or visits because the guy is phenomenal and actually created the AT&T phone long-distance network. Regardless I got enough from the class to increase my quantitative reasoning quite a bit...I went from learning truth tables and syllogisms to making complex Boolean statements.

While I am much stronger at induction, I have pretty strong deduction skills. I value induction more as well personally, because despite my reputation for being anti-science by being informed of its limitations, the best bet we have at creating knowledge does lie in our senses (which sometimes lie themselves), through practical experience, by measuring consequences. I throw a lot of rhetorical grenades in all different directions, but this I believe. And when I practice science and do research, this bias does come out, as it does in everybody, but I attempt to be conscious and corrective about it by creating systems of anti-bias in my work. When I'm doing research for a grant a priori principle won't get a dime...evidence-based practice and research does. Whenever I was doing analytics, I felt like I was just doing word games, in which case I felt like doing math would be more productive and have more impact. I value my experience in logic because it will help me when I do the LSAT later this year but I'm so over it.

I don't think people who really really value logic have done a lot of it lol. When I hear people say something is logical or that "their logic is" blah blah I do have to fight back the rage. An Ipad is logical, and incredibly stupid without an illogical person using it.

/e but I haven't read Stirner's work. I haven't read every minor German....only a couple anarchists. Marx is the crowning achievement of that school, and later Freud.

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Nobody has time to go through every source, there's no point in wasting time with obviously biased sources from organizations and people which are called out for dishonesty on a regular basis. Why would you waste time on a paper about global warming that has "all funding was provided by grants from oil companies to disprove global warming" in the funding sources section?

Circle jerks are fun

Cam doesn't know he's in the middle in his group.

surprised you haven't read him given our last interaction on the subject (you called him a meme and talked about marx smashing him), you could probably get through stirner in a day

i don't really get anything from stirner i just think he's funny

I've read secondary sources about Stirner and his name came up with Proudhon's. I know the basics of his philosophy and I really don't think there can be more do it than that, as anti-systematic as it is. There is a lot of debate as to whether or not he influenced Nietzsche but Nietzsche was working with much bigger ideas, like exposing the Western Narrative.

Marx, Nietzsche, and Freud are my big three.

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Colossians 2:8

New International Version (NIV)

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.