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Oct 22 2023 07:52am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Oct 22 2023 07:37am)
Adding my 2-cents. I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. Your 'new right' assertion has nothing to do with the new right base. It's the usual suspects from old right taking advantage of a moment. Rural America is very much focused on America, not Israel, for sure not Ukraine. This is Iron Range timber north land middle-low class laborers with high probability of being a military family. The sentiment around here.


This is 100% correct.
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Oct 22 2023 07:57am
Quote (bogie160 @ 22 Oct 2023 15:32)
You are correct, I hold the UN's opinions (and that of left-wing NGOs) of virtually no account.


Like declaring the state of Israel in 1947:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Btw doing a comparison in-between Palestine and Germany occupation after the war was one of the most ridiculous thing i read here over the last week(s).

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Oct 22 2023 07:58am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 22 2023 02:52pm)
This is 100% correct.


True. And its not nothing, but its not the majority.

"17.9% Rural areas in the United States, often referred to as rural America, consists of approximately 97% of the United States' land area.
An estimated 60 million people, or one in five residents (17.9% of the total U.S. population), live in rural America."
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Oct 22 2023 08:03am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 22 2023 08:58am)
True. And its not nothing, but its not the majority.

"17.9% Rural areas in the United States, often referred to as rural America, consists of approximately 97% of the United States' land area.
An estimated 60 million people, or one in five residents (17.9% of the total U.S. population), live in rural America."


Most of us hate the east and west coast and the degenerates that live there.
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Oct 22 2023 08:59am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Oct 22 2023 07:30am)
It very much is in my jurisdiction of the USA.


I've chatted with a wide assortment about it and not heard anyone complain about the aid to Israel. Plenty of people vocally opposed to more money for Ukraine, but Israel has the same ones heated
I mean its not hard logic to sort out, some foreign quagmire with no real impact on Americans that even the warmongers can only justify because "we're getting Russians killed" which means fuck all benefit to us, versus fighting terrorists who just did a 9/11 scale attack and raped, tortured and murdered dozens of Americans.

The only people I've seen opposed to weapons for Israel right now are the terrorist supporters (not even the sympathizers), and one or two kooky ultra libertarian ronpaulites who think the rest of the world doesn't exist
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Oct 22 2023 09:01am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 22 2023 03:03pm)
Most of us hate the east and west coast and the degenerates that live there.


Would you support Brock Lesnar as a presidential candidate?
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Oct 22 2023 09:05am
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I've chatted with a wide assortment about it and not heard anyone complain about the aid to Israel. Plenty of people vocally opposed to more money for Ukraine, but Israel has the same ones heated
I mean its not hard logic to sort out, some foreign quagmire with no real impact on Americans that even the warmongers can only justify because "we're getting Russians killed" which means fuck all benefit to us, versus fighting terrorists who just did a 9/11 scale attack and raped, tortured and murdered dozens of Americans.

The only people I've seen opposed to weapons for Israel right now are the terrorist supporters (not even the sympathizers), and one or two kooky ultra libertarian ronpaulites who think the rest of the world doesn't exist


The jew media told you people who live in caves did 9/11.
In reality, it was Israel.

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Oct 22 2023 09:06am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 22 2023 10:01am)
Would you support Brock Lesnar as a presidential candidate?


No, the system has been corrupted.
Only a purge will fix it.
I don't see any politician saying this.
Do you?
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Oct 22 2023 09:11am
Quote (bogie160 @ 22 Oct 2023 03:28)
We needed to occupy Germany and Japan at the end of the second world war. The Gazan Arabs are far less cohesive a society than either. Stop making excuses for genocidal regimes and you'll feel happier.

And Germany/Japan were among the leading nations in the world when it comes to science, technology, culture and prosperity before the outbreak of WW2. They had the social and economic strength to turn into peaceful, prosperous nations and only needed someone to channel their energy into the right direction. Can't say the same about Gaza, or much of the Muslim world if we're being honest.

Simply put, the success of "nation building" that we saw in Germany and Japan was the exception, not the norm. It was a big mistake to expect similar outcomes in Iraq or Afghanistan, and it would be an even bigger mistake to try the same, failed template in Gaza or Iran.
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Oct 22 2023 09:20am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2023 10:11am)
And Germany/Japan were among the leading nations in the world when it comes to science, technology, culture and prosperity before the outbreak of WW2. They had the social and economic strength to turn into peaceful, prosperous nations and only needed someone to channel their energy into the right direction. Can't say the same about Gaza, or much of the Muslim world if we're being honest.

Simply put, the success of "nation building" that we saw in Germany and Japan was the exception, not the norm. It was a big mistake to expect similar outcomes in Iraq or Afghanistan, and it would be an even bigger mistake to try the same, failed template in Gaza or Iran.


Korea can be excused for 'historical' advanced empires but it certainly wasn't even close to developed pre WW2. I mean, somewhat ironically for this example it was Japan that started the nation-building in Korea with infrastructure projects, but they didn't take off like a rocket until decades later, modernizing in full in the 60s/70s and booming in the 90s+
There's exceptions to the exceptions

I mean, Iraq honestly had a chance at being a regional power and booming under secular ba'athist rule, and if we had been allied with saddam instead of trying to kill him, maybe it would have. Likewise Iran is already an ascendant, albeit low tier, world power and soon nuclear power- easily capable of that same kind of success if given the opportunity. Afghanistan by contrast is just a bunch of goatfuckers

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