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Math is everything + link to a conservative paper.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 12 Feb 2019 21:52)
Math is everything + link to a conservative paper.


Do you seriously think that students which lag behind by 5 years in math (on a national average) will be on par in other subjects like english, geography or science?

And when I am citing this conservative paper, I'm not citing opinion pieces, instead the articles are referring to education experts or official German government bodies.
And just for the record, for our non-German PaRDians: yes, "Die Welt" is a conservative newspaper, but without ridiculous hackery. They are not like Fox News, and they also dont favor a single party as much as for example the British "Daily Telegraph" is favoring the Tories.

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Do you seriously think that students which lag behind by 5 years in math (on a national average) will be on par in other subjects like english, geography or science?

And when I am citing this conservative paper, I'm not citing opinion pieces, instead the articles are referring to education experts or official German government bodies.
And just for the record, for our non-German PaRDians: yes, "Die Welt" is a conservative newspaper, but without ridiculous hackery. They are not like Fox News, and they also dont favor a single party as much as for example the British "Daily Telegraph" is favoring the Tories.


imagine being 5 years behind a german 8th grader, ffs we have people visiting our schools for over 10 years and you cant entrust them with the simplest tasks :rofl:

and some morons still think these migrants will be beneficial....

btw, welt still is one of the decent and balanced newspapers worth reading with both conservative and left leaning articles

Quote (Knoppie @ 12 Feb 2019 20:12)
Total applications versus refugee status holders. (ratio in 2017 decisions was about 44%)..

Current applicants and refused applicants with a temporary status is a group that is not allowed to work. So the numbers are correct in not taking them into unemployment rates. I think there are discussions about making it possible for them to work, but perhaps Blackx knows more :D


and why should they be allowed work, when existing law requires them to be deported as soon as possible
of course that doesnt happen, which is the irony here

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Feb 2019 22:51)
Do you seriously think that students which lag behind by 5 years in math (on a national average) will be on par in other subjects like english, geography or science?

And when I am citing this conservative paper, I'm not citing opinion pieces, instead the articles are referring to education experts or official German government bodies.
And just for the record, for our non-German PaRDians: yes, "Die Welt" is a conservative newspaper, but without ridiculous hackery. They are not like Fox News, and they also dont favor a single party as much as for example the British "Daily Telegraph" is favoring the Tories.


As french i can assure you there's differences, but this is not the real problem.
The real problem is

- to mix/confuse refugees with classical migrants and applying the same level of qualification for both. (taking the lower as reference preferably...)
- to consider education level in their own country, and to apply it while it's obviously not the same kind of population. (same as above...)
/e almost forgot - taking numbers just before, in, or after the migration or war, depends of narrative...

Year(s) ago it was the criminality, it got mostly debunked, and now we get the famous "rocket engineers" or "welfare leeches" salt ... What's next ? :lol:

It's ok, these people are not the top notch blonds with big boobs you were looking for, gotcha.

Have a nice one.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 12 Feb 2019 23:27)
As french i can assure you there's differences, but this is not the real problem.
The real problem is

- to mix/confuse refugees with classical migrants and applying the same level of qualification for both. (taking the lower as reference preferably...)
- to consider education level in their own country, and to apply it while it's obviously not the same kind of population. (same as above...)
/e almost forgot - taking numbers from before or after the war, or just before, in, or after the migration, depends of narrative...

Year(s) ago it was the criminality, it got mostly debunked, and now we get the famous "rocket engineers" or "welfare leeches" salt ... What's next ? :lol:

It's ok, these people are not the top notch blonds with big boobs you were looking for, gotcha.

Have a nice one.


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Quote (Knoppie @ 12 Feb 2019 20:27)
Rofl, that's actually not a bad move.. Granting Catalonia influence on Spanish politics, will they dare to call for re-elections or stand behind the "perceived too soft" Prime minister. Both options are not to great for their independence campaign.


Well it's indeed a smart move. Sánchez might not be the most popular president we've had, but he's not an idiot, and he has survived several Game of Thrones-esque incidents (going from leader of the opposition, to being ousted by his own party and forced to abandon his seat in parliament, to becoming president of the country) in about 18 months. But I think he's bluffing and will try to hold on to his position for as long as possible... I expect that, if his budget get's rejected, he will call for elections in autumn and not in spring.

The whole budget debate is also happening at the same time as the trial of the catalan separatist politicians that disobeyed the Constitutional Court rulings, held the independence referendum, and later unilaterally declared secession (the trial started today). Even if the government can't meddle with the justice system, it's hard for the separatist parties to vote in favour of Sánchez, while their comrades are facing trial on that very same day.

I think that they'd eventually be willing to approve the budget in exchange for a promise from Sánchez to issue a pardon for the separatists if they are eventually convicted, but this is of course something they can only negotiate under the table. If they can buy Sánchez another year in presidency, chances are the trial will be over by summer 2020 (when elections would automatically take place, after it's 4 year cycle) and a pardon could be issued if needed. They could also hope that the passing of time allows for a change in the spanish social climate, as the anti-Sánchez sentiment is at its highest right now, and elections would likely result in him being ousted. If they let the government fall now, the elections could put Casado from PP or Rivera from C's in presidency, and that would be the end of the separatists' hope of a pardon ever happening, plus they'd face a much stricter government. Even with Sánchez in charge it's very complicated that it could be issued, as it would likely be a very unpopular decision among most of PSOE's voters, but the current president hasn't ruled out the possibility, so who knows.

Quote (dro94 @ 11 Feb 2019 23:58)
The question is why do people like zark feel the need for increasing integration? IMO they're already too integrated and it's causing nationalistic sentiments in countries like Italy, UK, Hungary...


Because it's much easier to get things done when decisions are made by one body instead of 28. If we want Europe's social culture and standard of life to prevail in the long run, we need a strong united entity that has the same geopolitical strength as China, Russia and the US.

Becoming a Type 1 Civilization is inevitable in the long run anyway, might as well start working towards such convergence on a continental level ^^

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it's easy to burn flags, in the same it's easier to divide than unify


Let’s try burn this European flag





Which is non-flammable due to EU regulations
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 13 Feb 2019 16:32)
it's easy to burn flags, in the same it's easier to divide than unify


Let’s try burn this European flag


https://i.imgur.com/E6GBC1g.mp4


Which is non-flammable due to EU regulations


ok, thats a good one! :D :thumbsup:
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Feb 13 2019 10:32am)
it's easy to burn flags, in the same it's easier to divide than unify


Let’s try burn this European flag


https://i.imgur.com/E6GBC1g.mp4


Which is non-flammable due to EU regulations


while i'm on board with having the rights to burn your flag, i also think people should be allowed to kick you in the nuts for burning the flag of the country you're living in instead of becoming politically active to make it better
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