Don't be so strangely negative

Refugee unemployment in Germany drops sharply

https://www.ft.com/content/bea8507e-64cb-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

It's well know phenomena, these people need a bit of time before getting a job...

300k out of 2million or so have found jobs, and most of those jobs are subsidized and/or extremely low paying, so that even those who have found a job will not become net tax payers for the forseeable future and remain a drain on society instead.

also note that particularly among the true war refugees from syria (which is a subset of all the people arriving here who claim to be from Syria!), there were some educated people. so those who have already found a job are in all likelihood the most qualified, most "usable" ones, the ones which were most easy to get into a job.

in the article

One in four refugees is now officially registered as having a job, a significant improvement from the numbers one year ago.

=> Which is 25% on the other hand reading your post this is 15% (300k/2M)

Any explanation for the 10% difference ?

Don't be so negative:

Around 300,000 refugees are now in work, a rise of 88,000 on last year, the Federal Office for Labour (BA) announced on Tuesday.
https://www.thelocal.de/20180821/thousands-more-refugees-are-in-jobsbecause-theyve-learned-german

Seems language skills is the main problem.


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 12 2019 09:57am

Dont post articles which are behind a fucking paywall if you want people to read them.

As I said, they recognize around 300k refugees who have found a job, but they relate it to a smaller estimate of the total number of refugees in the country, that's how they arrive at the inflated 25% number.
You also didnt refute all the other points I made.

On top of my previous arguments, note how getting 88k refugees into the labor market within one year is not actually a reason to celebrate when 160-200k new refugees have arrived in Germany over the same timeframe.

For links just open them as "private" / "anonymous"

You wrote 2 millions dude... Im not blind. I guess it's your own "official" numbers... Of refugees ofc, because we were not talking about classic migrants isnt it ?

/nb: i will check the arguments in few hours

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 12 2019 10:33am

Checked;

Germany has the second lowest unemployment rates within the EU. 3.3% of the labour force (15- to 74-year-olds) were unemployed in December 2018.

Congrats !

Total applications versus refugee status holders. (ratio in 2017 decisions was about 44%)..

Current applicants and refused applicants with a temporary status is a group that is not allowed to work. So the numbers are correct in not taking them into unemployment rates. I think there are discussions about making it possible for them to work, but perhaps Blackx knows more

Syrians are quite well educated though.

Rofl, that's actually not a bad move.. Granting Catalonia influence on Spanish politics, will they dare to call for re-elections or stand behind the "perceived too soft" Prime minister. Both options are not to great for their independence campaign.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Feb 12 2019 01:28pm

all holders of a protection status from the big wave of 2015/16 are eligible for the workforce by now. the "not allowed to work yet"-thing doesnt apply to too many of them.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article185665992/Bundesarbeitsagentur-Zwei-von-drei-Fluechtlingen-beziehen-Hartz-IV.html

17.12.2018:
German Employment Agency:

- 2 out of 3 refugees from the eight main countries of origin (syria, afghanistan, iraq, iran, nigeria, pakistan, eritrea, somalia) are receiving "Hartz IV", the German version of unemployment benefits. the other third has either found a proper job, or is a "fresh" asylum seeker, where either his/her asylum application is still pending; or was completed less than 2 years ago, so that he/she is still receiving benefits for asylum seekers, which are practically the same as the Hartz IV unemployment ones, but administratively separated.
- the German Employment Agency itself estimates "that there are about 1.7 million refugees/asylum seekers/... who came to Germany from the eight main countries of origin" - which implies that the total number is well above 1.7m!
- the rate of people who receive the unemployment benefits among immigrants from these 8 countries at the end of 2018 stood at 64%, compared with 9% among the entire population. (the rate is higher than the 3.3% unemployment rate since it includes minijobs which are subsizdes by the Employment Agency, and also children growing up in households with un- or underemployed parents.)








no they are not. Syrians are pretty well educated when you compare them with their neighboring countries, but not on an international level.

for example, look at he "Trends in Mathematics and Science Study" (TIMSS) from 2011 - the data was collected before 2011, ie before the outbreak of the syrian civil war.
https://nces.ed.gov/timss/figure11_4.asp

"Percentage of 8th-grade students reaching the TIMSS international benchmarks in mathematics, by education system: 2011"



so, according to the TIMS study, around one third (30-32%) of the students in countries like australia, great britain or the united states reached at least the "high" benchmark in their math skills, and about two thirds (64%) reached at least the "intermediate" benchmark.
in Syria, the numbers were 3% and 17%, respectively.


according to the table under https://nces.ed.gov/timss/table11_5.asp,
the average score of 8th-grade students in the united states, australia, great britain, was 525, 519, 533, respectively. for syria, the average was 426. for comparison, the highest-ranking territorial state in the study, South Korea, has an average score of 560.

and according to this article:
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article150462555/So-schlecht-ist-die-Schulbildung-von-Fluechtlingen-wirklich.html

the results of the TIMS study suggest that syrian 8th-grade students on average lag behind german students in their math skills by about 5 years, that is, syrian 8th-graders (from before the civil war!!) are about as good in math as german 3rd-grade elementary school students.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 12 2019 02:45pm