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May 25 2022 10:22pm
Quote (KrWWW @ May 25 2022 09:20pm)
I literally said that in the post you replied to...



It's not police leadership in that situation. The officers on scene turned coward when faced with the choice and waited for a better man to step in.
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May 25 2022 10:24pm
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It's not police leadership in that situation. The officers on scene turned coward when faced with the choice and waited for a better man to step in.


it was equivalent to a navy seal with the border that rushed him

a average cop doesn't have that training
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May 25 2022 10:25pm
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Does that excuse the police on scene for refusing to enter the classroom? If anything it makes them look worse.


Maybe they didn't have proper PPE available in the moment? Asking a cop to jump into this room with the heavily armed shooter without high-quality bullet-proof gear and helmets and so on, would basically amount to demanding that he jumps into his certain death.
Oooor they were scared that the shooter has a hand grenade or a bomb vest and blows the whole room up, including all of his hostages.



This might be a case of cowardice in the face of the enemy or whatever you wanna call it, but we can't know for sure. You guys are jumping to conclusions way too quickly because of your penchant for blaming cops for everything that goes wrong.
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May 25 2022 10:28pm
Quote (KrWWW @ May 25 2022 09:24pm)
it was equivalent to a navy seal with the border that rushed him

a average cop doesn't have that training


So if a cop cant stop an 18 year old with a gun what good are they? Was this kid seal team 6? If only highly trained professionals can stop someone like this shooter, guns aren't really a self defense tool and we should regulate them to keep them out of the hands of this super soldier kid.

Also it wasn't an off duty officer. It was a tactical team from border patrol who breached and killed him.
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Maybe they didn't have proper PPE available in the moment? Asking a cop to jump into this room with the heavily armed shooter without high-quality bullet-proof gear and helmets and so on, would basically amount to demanding that he jumps into his certain death.
Oooor they were scared that the shooter has a hand grenade or a bomb vest and blows the whole room up, including all of his hostages.



This might be a case of cowardice in the face of the enemy or whatever you wanna call it, but we can't know for sure. You guys are jumping to conclusions way too quickly because of your penchant for blaming cops for everything that goes wrong.


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Maybe they didn't have proper PPE available in the moment? Asking a cop to jump into this room with the heavily armed shooter without high-quality bullet-proof gear and helmets and so on, would basically amount to demanding that he jumps into his certain death.
Oooor they were scared that the shooter has a hand grenade or a bomb vest and blows the whole room up, including all of his hostages.



This might be a case of cowardice in the face of the enemy or whatever you wanna call it, but we can't know for sure. You guys are jumping to conclusions way too quickly because of your penchant for blaming cops for everything that goes wrong.



Cops are supposed to be willing to pay their lives down in the moment for the lives of innocents around them. If a cop won't sacrifice themselves for a shot at saving 19 kids whats the point?
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An off-duty Customs and Border Protection agent from an elite tactical unit is the hero who shot and killed the Robb Elementary School gunman before he could continue his massacre, reports said Wednesday.

The agent, a member of CBP’s Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC), rushed into the school while the shooter was still active and began exchanging rounds with the gunman, who was barricaded inside a fourth-grade classroom, NBC and Fox reported.


this is what I'm going off
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May 25 2022 10:35pm
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this is what I'm going off


I don't think describing that officer as a rogue officer is accurate. Is a doctor who gets paged into work on their day off a difficult case a rogue doctor? This is all deflection from the dereliction of duty from the officers at the scene. It's an 18 year old kid with a gun, no body armor as previously reported.

This post was edited by Sioux on May 25 2022 10:38pm
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I don't think describing that officer as a rogue officer is accurate. Is a doctor who gets paged into work on their day off a difficult case a rogue doctor?


do you see officer anywhere in that quote?
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do you see officer anywhere in that quote?


Lone wolf then He was part of a breaching team that came in after the cops on-site utterly failed.
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