Ukraine is getting wrecked. Right now they're busy fighting for the city they never lost --> Fortress Bakhmut

The irony

So you agree Russia should leave Ukraine and Russia should not invade its neighbours?

You agree right?

I agree that this war should've been avoided which automatically means Russia wouldn't have invaded it's neighbor.

That's my stance since the beginning of this conflict (as you know).

Don't know why you're trying again but whatever

"this war should have been avoided" - but not by the country that started this war, not by the country that repeatedly invades its neighbours in order to annex their territory, not by the country that already occupied a region of ukraine, but by a military alliance that isn't even a party of this war.

_ pootlicker "logic" xD

That's not what I asked though. I'm trying to establish your position. You say you don't support the war so by extension you ought to agree with these statements.

Russia should not invade its neighbour ergo no war, agree or disagree?
Russia should leave Ukraine ergo the war ends, agree or disagree?

you won't get a straight answer to that, because it would completely destroy their position.

expect the old "aCkTsHuaLLy iT's nAtO's fAuLt tHaT rUsSiA kEePs iNvAdiNg iTs nEiGhbOuRs - eMpErOr pUtiN diD nOtHinG wRoNg", or at the very best a "bOtH SiDeS aRe bAd", implying that somehow means one side can't be significantly worse and the military aggressor...

Bidet logic. America started it by supporting a coup that threw Ukraine into civil war.

TIL it was actually america that made yanukovich turn into a dictator, violate ukraine's constitution, made him unilaterally withdraw from already agreed upon deals, and subsequently kill more than a hundred protesters before fleeing to mother russia...

as if i hadn't inb4'd the mental gymnastics of kremlin bots. same "logic" as the idiots who claim that wwII was actually started by the allies' harsh conditions in the treaty of versailles, not by nazi germany invading poland...

Too scared to quote me directly NATO shill?

I take it that you understand your hopeless position, NATO expansion is a fact that cannot be denied and NATO has no business in Ukraine other than wanting that territory in order to fuck Russia.

Take that capital L and bow out




You know my position very fucking well. NATO should've stayed where they are, they're a defensive alliance after all, right?

YOUR position is that Ukraine becomes a NATO member at all cost and I strongly oppose that nonsense because the war will never end as long as Ukrainian neutrality is not guaranteed.

Start serious negotiations with the Russians and end the war that way. I stated that from the beginning remember