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Feb 22 2017 12:28pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 21 2017 01:04am)
surely at the very least you can call in sick and not get paid for the day? they can't be firing people for getting sick can they?


nice, that's nice
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Feb 22 2017 12:28pm
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Its a really clear cut example of the excesses of progressivism. Being tolerant of someone wanting to transition from female to male doesn't mean you have to let them compete in sporting tournaments with chemical advantages. Now I'd be interested in the argument of whether boys and girls divisions should exist, and if so, whether transgenders should be allowed to cross tournaments at all, because its a matter of biology. But letting them compete while on chemicals is ridiculous


I find it a bit odd because in Wisconsin, at least at a highschool level, there are no sex separated divisions. When i was a senior a girl took 2nd place in the state at 112.

I agree, when in hormone treatment where your Testosterone levels greatly exceed that of your competition it's time to transition into the men's division. I'm a bit thrown off by someone competing in the women's division that want's to transition anyways, perhaps the temptation to win is just too great. Or perhaps the rules didn't allow for a cross over without gender reassignment surgery (written along the lines of equality so men don't go to women's division in a funny bit of irony), so this is the only place she could conceivably compete. TBH i only skimmed the article... talking about it has raised more questions.
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Feb 22 2017 12:34pm
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I find it a bit odd because in Wisconsin, at least at a highschool level, there are no sex separated divisions. When i was a senior a girl took 2nd place in the state at 112.

I agree, when in hormone treatment where your Testosterone levels greatly exceed that of your competition it's time to transition into the men's division. I'm a bit thrown off by someone competing in the women's division that want's to transition anyways, perhaps the temptation to win is just too great. Or perhaps the rules didn't allow for a cross over without gender reassignment surgery (written along the lines of equality so men don't go to women's division in a funny bit of irony), so this is the only place she could conceivably compete. TBH i only skimmed the article... talking about it has raised more questions.


When I wrestled in 7th grade, there was a girl in my division who pinned me ^^

In middle school and high school at lower weights 100-120 lbs they can basically compete with boys.

Here in Ohio there's no separation of boys and girls. We had a girl on our high school wrestling team who led the team in wins at 112 or whatever the lowest weight is.

For other sports though and you start comparing 110-140 pound girls to people who are 170+ the strength advantage becomes almost 2-3x difference.
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Feb 22 2017 12:35pm
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When I wrestled in 7th grade, there was a girl in my division who pinned me ^^

In middle school and high school at lower weights 100-120 lbs they can basically compete with boys.

Here in Ohio there's no separation of boys and girls. We had a girl on our high school wrestling team who led the team in wins at 112 or whatever the lowest weight is.

For other sports though and you start comparing 110-140 pound girls to people who are 170+ the strength advantage becomes almost 2-3x difference.


That might have been my niece, she was very good. She is in the army now.
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When I wrestled in 7th grade, there was a girl in my division who pinned me ^^

In middle school and high school at lower weights 100-120 lbs they can basically compete with boys.

Here in Ohio there's no separation of boys and girls. We had a girl on our high school wrestling team who led the team in wins at 112 or whatever the lowest weight is.

For other sports though and you start comparing 110-140 pound girls to people who are 170+ the strength advantage becomes almost 2-3x difference.


there were multiple good girls in the area i grew up in. One girl beat every guy on out team she faced all the way up to highschool where she was still a great wrestler. Girls do develop faster sometimes and they have an advantage in flexibility. I once watched a girl in a pinning combination with shoulders exposed to the mat while also on one knee, looked gross.
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Feb 22 2017 12:45pm
In highschool when I wrestled there were girls in the lower weight classes along with the boys . Didn't seem to bother anyone . I wrestled one at 152 and beat her in 7 seconds though :/ felt kinda bad . Iirc there were quite a few girls who were pretty good .
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Feb 22 2017 12:53pm
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I find it a bit odd because in Wisconsin, at least at a highschool level, there are no sex separated divisions. When i was a senior a girl took 2nd place in the state at 112.

I agree, when in hormone treatment where your Testosterone levels greatly exceed that of your competition it's time to transition into the men's division. I'm a bit thrown off by someone competing in the women's division that want's to transition anyways, perhaps the temptation to win is just too great. Or perhaps the rules didn't allow for a cross over without gender reassignment surgery (written along the lines of equality so men don't go to women's division in a funny bit of irony), so this is the only place she could conceivably compete. TBH i only skimmed the article... talking about it has raised more questions.


If they're receiving performance enhancing drugs at all, they shouldn't be allowed to compete. And I think that should hold true for other leagues, to the point I'd even support olympics rules that bar athletes who refuse doctor recommended treatments that would have disqualified them.
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Feb 22 2017 12:58pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 22 2017 12:53pm)
If they're receiving performance enhancing drugs at all, they shouldn't be allowed to compete. And I think that should hold true for other leagues, to the point I'd even support olympics rules that bar athletes who refuse doctor recommended treatments that would have disqualified them.


So a woman transitioning to a man, competing in the men's division and with T levels not exceeding that of an average man or even subaverage man? I see the logic behind it but i personally would have no qualms with it.
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Feb 22 2017 12:58pm
Girl uses testosterone to norm male levels ( I'm assuming and wins ) she's on drugs and can't compete. Sounds like a snowflake to me . Want a participation trophy for being beat by a girl ?
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Feb 22 2017 01:22pm
in recent news, my company just hired a new employee on my team, she happens to be a woman and is at the same level and pay that the rest of the male dominated team

gender gap myth destroyed?

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