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Dec 1 2012 09:36am
Quote (sylvannos @ Dec 1 2012 01:42am)
No we wouldn't. It would still be PaRD, but the "R" would just stand for "Rage."


:rofl:

I'd vote to keep the religion here. They're very intertwined.
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Dec 1 2012 10:37am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SipVykiE6mY


Interesting vids, but few things they said at the end are not really true.
Exemple "just start believing" --> believing is not the way.
Checking things for yourself so you can KNOW if it is truth or not is the way.
"we are all one" --> not yet sorry :( The truth can unite us but at the moment division prevails.
That said, this video is not as bad as most garbage you can find on youtube... Just take care with what is said, don't trust anyone but yourself.

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Having faith in just the name Jesus and an image of the way you think he looked two-thousand years ago is not the way. That is a graven image, and one of the ten commandments says not to worship a graven image, so why do people that call themselves Christians and say they believe in the Bible do it?

It is just a fantasy created by the mind. You have to see Jesus the way he says he is now. Jesus said, “I am in spirit and truth,” “I am the truth and the life.” If you have faith in what Jesus says he is, you have the faith that will get you to heaven.

Faith now: Some people’s minds will be too strong for them to overcome the control of their animal mind before the body they have now dies or is killed, so faith in the real thing, not a myth, is essential to have right now. It is the way.

Having faith in the truth and the life is all most people will be able to truly have in this world because of the influence of other minds, but as Jesus said, faith in him is all you need to get to heaven in the next life.

All you have to do is try your best (help the truth) and have faith the truth and the life is the way to go to heaven when you die, just as Jesus says.

Follow Jesus: You express your faith by seeking the truth and the life at all times. You follow Jesus by trying your best to spread the truth and the life, even if all you have yourself is faith it is the way, and no one understands you. You just need faith in the truth and the life in this life to get heaven in the next, and it will come quicker than people think.

You have true faith right now if you have faith in the truth and the life.

Hope/belief: Believing and hoping something is true or going to be true does not make it true if you do not start with the real truth. It is the truth, or it is not. There is no way to make something that is not true, true.

Hope is a waking dream.
Aristotle

Faith in faith: In and of itself, belief, faith, hope, wishing, good luck charms, holy relics, symbols, positive thinking, good intentions, praying, curses, voodoo, magic spells, etc. do not do anything except make people feel like they have some control over life. It is just a coping strategy.

If you believe a fairytale or myth is true, you will not live happily ever after.


From page 27 of The Present (with religion) on http://http://www.truthcontest.com
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Dec 1 2012 10:47am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 11:37am)
Interesting vids, but few things they said at the end are not really true.
Exemple "just start believing" --> believing is not the way.
Checking things for yourself so you can KNOW if it is truth or not is the way.
"we are all one" --> not yet sorry :( The truth can unite us but at the moment division prevails.
That said, this video is not as bad as most garbage you can find on youtube... Just take care with what is said, don't trust anyone but yourself.



From page 27 of The Present (with religion) on http://http//www.truthcontest.com


Tell me your definition of truth please.
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#294
Dec 1 2012 10:51am
Quote (Skinned @ 1 Dec 2012 17:47)
Tell me your definition of truth please.


The best definition is : that which is.
Other good one is : being in accord with fact or reality.

Edit: it is not MY definition, it is THE definition... that is true for everyone like 2+2=4.
Don't mix up perception of that which is, and that which is...

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Dec 1 2012 10:54am
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Dec 1 2012 10:57am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 11:51am)
The best definition is : that which is.
Other good one is : being in accord with fact or reality.

Edit: it is not MY definition, it is THE definition... that is true for everyone like 2+2=4.
Don't mix up perception of that which is, and that which is...


...so how are the easily debunked conspiracy theories that you subscribe to part of your truth ?





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This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Dec 1 2012 10:58am
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Dec 1 2012 11:06am
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...so how are the easily debunked conspiracy theories that you subscribe to part of your truth ?





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The fact you say it is not true does not make it false... Once more it is not MY truth, it is that which is... for everyone.
If you can prove (that meansback it up with evidence) that it is not true, then I will reconsider it.
Read again that last quote I posted.
It makes it clear the bible is being missinterpreted.
Of course it is hard to accept after so many years of blind faith in myths, but it does not make it less true.
The fact that you do not like the truth does not change it.

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In order to be effective, truth must penetrate like an arrow, and that is likely to hurt.
Wei Wu Wei

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Dec 1 2012 11:07am
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Dec 1 2012 11:10am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 12:06pm)
The fact you say it is not true does not make it false... Once more it is not MY truth, it is that which is... for everyone.
If you can prove (that meansback it up with evidence) that it is not true, then I will reconsider it.
Read again that last quote I posted.
It makes it clear the bible is being missinterpreted.
Of course it is hard to accept after so many years of blind faith in myths, but it does not make it less true.
The fact that you do not like the truth does not change it.


...I don't give a rats ass what you think of established and accepted Biblical interpretation . You have not studied the subject matter other than random posts by unqualified buffoons on some idiotic website .
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#298
Dec 1 2012 11:17am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Dec 1 2012 11:51am)
The best definition is : that which is.
Other good one is : being in accord with fact or reality.

Edit: it is not MY definition, it is THE definition... that is true for everyone like 2+2=4.
Don't mix up perception of that which is, and that which is...


How do you know it accords with reality? Can any human actually detect objective reality?

If not then how can we correspond belief with it?

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#299
Dec 1 2012 01:57pm
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 1 2012 12:17pm)
How do you know it accords with reality?  Can any human actually detect objective reality?

If not then how can we correspond belief with it?


Don't bother he doesn't go that deep. I've tried questions like this, he doesnt answer :/
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Dec 1 2012 01:59pm
Quote (mike14e @ Dec 1 2012 02:57pm)
Don't bother he doesn't go that deep. I've tried questions like this, he doesnt answer :/


I don't have the answer either :p

The best one can do is be honest.
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