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Apr 26 2011 01:12pm
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Apr 26 2011 01:09pm)
Than that's ignorance on my part..  I'm born and raised in DC and Northern VA/Metro area..  I've never heard of this, and it sounds rediculous.

I appologize lol.


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In DARE, do they just tell you to not do drugs?  Thats rhetorical ofcourse, they teach you what each specific drug does and the dangers of it, among other things.


I live in Rural IL. So that would explain the differences. DARE here is much like Abstinence class Rhamax described.
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Apr 26 2011 01:12pm
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What am I not advocating for that would offer more protection to children against sexual assault?

Ground to ceiling stalls pose other hazards, especially with children. What if they can't get the door unlocked? You think it's coincidence that stalls are designed the way they are today to not be floor to ceiling?

Do you have any actual info on the expected safety of the unisex policy?

Back to my question to you, why are current unisex bathrooms mostly unused?


Responsible parents go into the bathroom with their children so the lock is irrelevant. Even so this could be solved by simply making an easier unlocking system with a button. 21st century bro.

The vast majority of sexual assualt (80%+) comes from a family friend or family member the children trust. We don't have the stranger danger fear much anymore because it simply isn't as bad as was once thought. Because of this we don't have to worry about assault being the norm and on top of that responsible parents go into the bathroom with their children.

They are not used possibly because people don't want them. Again I'm not arguing for the replacement of current bathrooms. I am simply saying that there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 01:08pm)
...shy of what ?

...other men seeing your penis ?

...and you call ME homophobic !


I acknowledge it is irrational and have been trying to get over it :p

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Responsible parents go into the bathroom with their children so the lock is irrelevant.  Even so this could be solved by simply making an easier unlocking system with a button.  21st century bro.

The vast majority of sexual assualt (80%+) comes from a family friend or family member the children trust.  We don't have the stranger danger fear much anymore because it simply isn't as bad as was once thought.  Because of this we don't have to worry about assault being the norm and on top of that responsible parents go into the bathroom with their children.

They are not used possibly because people don't want them.  Again I'm not arguing for the replacement of current bathrooms.  I am simply saying that there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.


I already answered the parents part, I linked back to it once already in the last page.
So, an easy unlock button.. Then why have locking doors at all? That defeats the purpose of the privacy of one of these floor to ceiling stalls that you think solves everything, bro.

2nd paragraph is irrelevant to your specific questions regarding this. It's much akin to other arguments of safety vs. danger. It's a red herring. You're much more likely to be injured in your own home, so should stores stop putting up the wet floor mop signs because you can obviously see the floor is wet?

Lastly, people don't use them, so something is obviously wrong with them. Just because you choose to ignore what people find wrong with them does not suddenly make you right.
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Apr 26 2011 01:18pm
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That's not an answer to my question. You are implying that unisex bathroom are inherently bad. I'm asking you why.
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Apr 26 2011 01:18pm
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I acknowledge it is irrational and have been trying to get over it :p


I can tell you why but you will just call it widowology !

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Apr 26 2011 01:19pm
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Lastly, people don't use them, so something is obviously wrong with them. Just because you choose to ignore what people find wrong with them does not suddenly make you right.


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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 07:18pm)
I can tell you why but you will just call it widowology !


self concious.
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Apr 26 2011 01:20pm
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So, an easy unlock button.. Then why have locking doors at all? That defeats the purpose of the privacy of one of these floor to ceiling stalls that you think solves everything, bro.

2nd paragraph is irrelevant to your specific questions regarding this. It's much akin to other arguments of safety vs. danger. It's a red herring. You're much more likely to be injured in your own home, so should stores stop putting up the wet floor mop signs because you can obviously see the floor is wet?

Lastly, people don't use them, so something is obviously wrong with them. Just because you choose to ignore what people find wrong with them does not suddenly make you right.


1. An easy unlock button from the inside. I don't see how it defeats the purpose.

2. I was citing statistics on sexual abuse and why unisex bathrooms wouldn't increase instances of sexual abuse. Your turn to refute them or cite statistics of your own that support why sexual abuse would increase.

3. People used to think women shouldn't vote. There was obviously something wrong with women back then. What the majority thinks is not necessarily what is right.

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I can tell you why but you will just call it widowology !


probably lol. But give it anyway :D

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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Apr 26 2011 03:19pm)
self concious.


nah , it's actually a very common apprehension rooted in childhood perception
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 26 Apr 2011 20:08)
...shy of what ?

...other men seeing your penis ?

...and you call ME homophobic !


Being prude =/= being homophobic.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 26 Apr 2011 20:20)
nah , it's actually a very common apprehension rooted in childhood perception


Shame about nakedness or being prude are things that are taught. Nudity is the natural state of any animal. Being ashamed about your or other's natural state is not natural or healthy.

This post was edited by hATemOnkEy on Apr 26 2011 01:22pm
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