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Apr 6 2023 12:24pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 6 2023 01:22pm)
Why did they do that?


An insanely large natural gas reserve was found in the black sea off of the Crimea coast in 2012.

Russia generally and Putin specofocally has wanted to take Ukraine back since the collapse of the USSR.

Those are the two reasons that honestly dwarf everything else.
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Apr 6 2023 12:39pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 6 2023 08:09pm)
ukraine wasn't even able to become a NATO member due to the unresolved territorial conflict in crimea, that's the whole point here, you kremlin bot. you really need to brush up on your basics there, you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about, lol.

not that "let's murder hundreds of thousands of innocent people because ukraine might become a NATO member in the distant future" is a particularly convincing "argument" to begin with. just stfu, war apologist. your moronic lies will never justify pootin's war. you're debasing yourself for a dictator because your ego can't handle being wrong, lol...


Here you go, drone

Drones gonna drone, lol




Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 6 2023 08:12pm)
And they got it in 2014 when they annexed Crimea without NATO interference.

So that can't be the reason.


Clueless, NATO has not recognized Crimea. Why are you even posting here if you don't understand anything about this conflict, lol


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Here's my source:

Now get good troll


I asked for the source of that picture, troll

No source, no cigar ;)

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Apr 6 2023 12:57pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 6 2023 03:24pm)
An insanely large natural gas reserve was found in the black sea off of the Crimea coast in 2012.

Russia generally and Putin specofocally has wanted to take Ukraine back since the collapse of the USSR.

Those are the two reasons that honestly dwarf everything else.


Reports in 2012 suggested the possibility of large natural gas reserves off of Crimea, ranging from 1.2 trillion cubic meters to 3.6 trillion cubic meters, which were not confirmed and considering the US Energy Information Administration, as of January 1, 2022, has stated that Russia's proved natural gas reserves were estimated at 39.6 trillion cubic meters so I don't find that particularly convincing.

Also considering how closely connected their energy infrastructure is, even if Ukraine was to develop these fields it most likely would have been in collaboration with Russia and to both countries benefit.

And what do you mean by Russia and Putin have wanted to take Ukraine back since the USSR was dissolved? What have you read that makes you believe that to be a major motivation in this conflict?

Would the US selecting the new government of a neighboring country after a violent revolution not factor into things much at all?
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Quote (Djunior @ Apr 6 2023 01:39pm)

Clueless, NATO has not recognized Crimea. Why are you even posting here if you don't understand anything about this conflict, lol


Why does it matter what NATO recognizes? They aren't trying to take it back.

If what NATO recognizes does matter why isn't Finald a big deal?
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Apr 6 2023 01:16pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ Apr 6 2023 04:23pm)
So the NATO should serround Russia
Make cold war with China
Interfear in province of China, Taiwan, to seround China more
Blow up civilian pipelines to Germany
Arm a internal civil war Ukraine


With the reason:
just to increase the life expectancy from age 65 to age 83?

You believe that is the agenda?

China Social credits and kapital coins is exactly the same.


The West is the only one who wants Cold War? China doesnt? Russia doesnt? Taiwan wants to be with West. China threatens Taiwan with invasion.

Life expectancy is a neutral parameter, not an agenda. Russia's internal issues are fucked, it should focus on them first instead of sending more men to war. A country where men dont live past 65 on average is a developing country and is definitely not taking care of its citizens and even invades foreign countries. So, the West is better.

China has "kapital coins" too, if its the same, why make a social credit system then?

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Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 6 2023 04:16pm)
The West is the only one who wants Cold War? China doesnt? Russia doesnt? Taiwan wants to be with West. China threatens Taiwan with invasion.

Life expectancy is a neutral parameter, not an agenda. Russia's internal issues are fucked, it should focus on them first instead of sending more men to war. A country where men dont live past 65 on average is a developing country and is definitely not taking care of its citizens and even invades foreign countries. So, the West is better.

China has "kapital coins" too, if its the same, why make a social credit system then?


? Where do you get your stats

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/life-expectancy
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 6 2023 09:00pm)
Why does it matter what NATO recognizes? They aren't trying to take it back.

If what NATO recognizes does matter why isn't Finald a big deal?


Finald? You mean Finland? No big deal because Finland =/= Ukraine, no Crimea in Finland, no Russian naval base, no large community of Russian speaking ethnic Russians...

Finland becoming a NATO member actually makes sense. A Western country in Europe with a strong military and high GDP, compare to a poor, corrupt shit hole like Ukraine where oligarchs run the show and a GDP of a couple hundred billion dollars. The only reason NATO wants to reel in Ukraine is because of it's geographic location (getting Ukraine + Crimea = Black Sea control and denying Russia Black Sea control.

That you're trying to make a case here is laughable. You truly have no clue what this is all about.

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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 Apr 2023 21:28)


Russian men life expectancy was 65.5 in 2021 and it's going down even more (still some covid, war, and more alcohol)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Russia

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 6 2023 04:42pm)
Russian men life expectancy was 65.5 in 2021 and it's going down even more (still some covid, war, and more alcohol)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Russia


Lmao do you even read the garbage you post?

Wrong, as usual

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Apr 6 2023 01:55pm
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 Apr 2023 21:46)
Lmao do you even read the garbage you post?

Wrong, as usual.


Russian men life expectancy is shit, nothing new, did you see how it was during their financial crisis ? 57 years lool
Now grab your shovel and gogogo
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