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Mar 28 2023 02:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 28 2023 03:34pm)
They're saying existing background checks should be used. the law is already in place.


This exactly. You have to use the system correctly for it to work and there are a lot of people that don't want to see the system work in favor of an outright ban.
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Mar 28 2023 02:39pm


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Mar 28 2023 02:44pm
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glad to see you are in the same albeit misguided, boat as the other user is in


you tell me more about what i think (while being wrong) than almost any other pard user i encounter. but, ok?

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I don't see this as non organic. It seems to be a pretty natural evolution of language as our understanding of the damage done by non physical means has evolved.

Also I don't think you have an issue with all directed modifications to language. Racial slurs being seen as bad and discouraged from use was far more directed and intentional and I dont think you are going to argue that was a bad thing.

I think you're just being kinda silly trying to impress your preference for how languages should change, and I'm not convinced it's a principled stand against the mechanism.


i dont understand the connection, no one tried to change the definition of the N word, they just asked people rightfully to stop using it out loud directed at black people. which was good. saying the n word was never violence tho, it didnt physically hurt anyone, it was harassment.

in any case i gave examples above of right winged behavior that somewhat fits the bill that im also against, so i dont know what more to do. its hard to give direct counter examples as the rapid redefinition of words lately has been a left winged behavior, not surprising as it's a progressive tactic in and of itself. the more broad practice of shutting down conversation is often attributed to the left, but in reality the right does it all the time too. its just that the left uses redefinition more often, where as the right uses other moral/structural justifications to avoid criticism (religion, denial of historical importance, the constitution, etc).

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I saw on the news the person even campaigned for a few local democrats. Going door to door, putting out yard signs and such.

Interesting when the shoe is on the other foot.

Also why does mtf or ftm matter if they identify otherwise? Or are we saying it’s a facade and you are what you were born as?

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Mar 28 2023 02:53pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 28 2023 12:06am)
It depends on how one defines 'violence', I suppose. Is 'violence' only physical?


Not necessarily, words intended to incite imminent physical violence would also qualify. The progressive left has gone far beyond that, the closest definition for which is "Anyone who does not positively affirm my worldview is guilty of physical violence equivalent to murder". When that's your worldview, you can rationalize anything.
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Not necessarily, words intended to incite imminent physical violence would also qualify. The progressive left has gone far beyond that, the closest definition for which is "Anyone who does not positively affirm my worldview is guilty of physical violence equivalent to murder". When that's your worldview, you can rationalize anything.


Inciting violence isnt violence, it's inciting violence. unless u mean something else.
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Mar 28 2023 03:03pm
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I saw on the news the person even campaigned for a few local democrats. Going door to door, putting out yard signs and such.

Interesting when the shoe is on the other foot.

Also why does mtf or ftm matter if they identify otherwise? Or are we saying it’s a facade and you are what you were born as?


it matters alot because as shown in this very thread, those who are afab are somehow "not capable" of commiting violent acts like this

which sets up the stage for the braindead conversation to go, "hrt did it, we must ban hrt on all levels"

its already happening across multiple platforms of social media, this line of talking
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Mar 28 2023 03:04pm
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it matters alot because as shown in this very thread, those who are afab are somehow "not capable" of commiting violent acts like this

which sets up the stage for the braindead conversation to go, "hrt did it, we must ban hrt on all levels"

its already happening across multiple platforms of social media, this line of talking


Good lol, maybe those people can get some actual help then
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Mar 28 2023 03:07pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 28 2023 04:04pm)
Good lol, maybe those people can get some actual help then


bottom of the barrel take, literal bottom
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bottom of the barrel take, literal bottom


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