Sunnis and Shiites have been barbarically bashing their heads in for 1300 years. Sharia law calls for thieves to be dismembered, for homosexuals to be thrown off of tall buildings and for rape victims to be stoned to death for adultery.
But sure, it was the western devil who brought archaic thinking and violence to the middle east.

Have you ever heard of the Renaissance? Rebirth of Greek ideas of civics and society that were rediscovered by Europeans through exposure to the Middle East via the crusades, brought civilization back to Europe and ended the dark ages.

That being said all things are cyclical and privilege is contingent on time and space. We are lucky to be who we are where we are when we are. The pendulum will swing again and we might help our Islamic brothers through their dark age through similar ideas of human freedom as we fight the repression of our own against market forces seeking to buy government.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 7 2019 05:30am

Fueling this crap is not my plan, and probably not yours too i guess so. So WHO ?

800 years ago we were burning random people for no reasons.
And 100 years ago women had no right to vote and were very often veiled.
and well 70 years ago keks.

It's a thin layer.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 7 2019 05:33am

Key to the European cultural superiority are the advances made during the Age of Enlightenment, which only began 50-100 years after the Renaissance had ended.
At around 1700, the European monarchies, the Mayas in Middle America, the Moghul Empire on the Indian subcontinent and the Chinese Empire were still on roughly the same technological, social and cultural level. Since then, Europe dramatically pulled ahead and more or less ruled the world by 1900.



Other than that, I agree with you and Sauci when you say that the veil of civilization in thin, that we were lucky to be born into privileged regions of the world and that European civilization did similarly horrible things in the not so distant past. I also agree that the pendulum is swinging back and forth. All true. But none of this explains or excuses the archaic backwardsness and violence that we see in the muslim world today.

Yes, they are currently going through their version of what was called "Dark Ages" when it happened in Europe. However, no foreign influence was to blame for the sale of indulgences, witch hunts, torture, a feudal society and all the bloodshed which happened in Europe at the time. Similarly, no foreign or outside influence is the primary cause of the intolerance, backwardsness and violence which is occurring in the muslim world right now. The key difference between the Dark Ages in Europe and the muslim world of today is that we're now living in a globalized world in which the struggles and the regression of civilization in one region of the world threatens to negatively affect everyone else if they dont prevent that from happening.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 7 2019 06:24am

too bad that muslim sinkholes are still stuck at the part from 800 years ago
so we just have to wait a few centuries i guess

or we make sure that this ideology does not belong to europe whatsoever

- it's not "centuries" but probably more like 1 or 2 generations range if you watch countries like Iran during the 70's you can understand.
- who pushed hard to put retarded regimes or maintain disorder in these countries ?
- there's a lot of others dangerous "ideologies" to take care about... One is doing quick shortcuts with too easy conclusions.

your generation theory is simply wrong, germany and france are good examples how even third generation children of migrants havent advanced

in fact the younger people have slight tendencies to be more conservative muslims than their parents/grandparents, which is exactly the opposite of the assimilation we should have

other groups of migrants manage that without a problem and literally nobody talks about them

ever heard a discussion about asian migrants? me neither

a widespread reform of islam is many, many generations away and our culture will at this rate have vanished

stop blaming others for the failures of muslim societies

All your points are wrong or biased, but np i will not losenmore time with this shit.

or in other words, you surrender once again

imagine my shock