Quote (addone @ Sep 3 2023 03:32pm)
Why would anyone listen to someone who is giving you speculation and conjecture when you ask them to provide hard evidence?
You don't even know what circular reasoning is. How can I pay even a smallest attention to someone who uses emotional arguments that try to convince you that the degree to which one believes something makes it true? It bears no weight when you try to convince me that believing something strongly to the point of even dying or killing for that somehow makes that belief true. Terrorists strap c4 to their chest or fly planes into building or die in the name of their God all the time and have been for thousands of years. It still makes them wrong. All you are saying with that statement is you are a crazy psychopath that is willing to do harm to yourself and others. Magic doesn't become true because cpk believes it very strongly, just like flat earth doesn't become true no matter how willing to die TiStuff is. Jesus cannot walk on water or live inside a stomach a whale underwater for three days or ressurect people from the dead no matter how many times the bible tries to tell you. This is emotional circular reasoning
And you demonstratebly are not mature or educated enough to have a debate regarding the subject.
Stick to binary subjects which are not as mentally taxing such as orange man good/bad or there are only 2 genders dur..
I have been providing hard evidence this entire time. Have you heard of something called the Bible? You should read it sometime.
Jesus can't walk on water? Let me check.
Matthew 14:22-33
Jesus Walks on the Water
22 Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd. 23 After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. Later that night, he was there alone, 24 and the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.
25 Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26
When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. “It’s a ghost,” they said, and cried out in fear.27 But Jesus immediately said to them: “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.”
28 “Lord, if it’s you,” Peter replied, “tell me to come to you on the water.”
29 “Come,” he said.
Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”
31 Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. “You of little faith,” he said, “why did you doubt?”
32 And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. 33 Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
Jesus can't resurrect people from the dead? Let me check.
John 11:38-44
Jesus Raises Lazarus From the Dead
38 Jesus, once more deeply moved, came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance. 39 “Take away the stone,” he said.
“But, Lord,” said Martha, the sister of the dead man, “by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days.”
40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”
41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”
43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.
Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”
Doesn't matter how strongly you believe Jesus cannot walk on water, he did. Doesn't matter how strongly you believe Jesus cannot resurrect people from the dead, he did.
As a matter of fact God is so powerful that he can even make you believe in him and make you do it WILLINGLY. He did it to me and so he can also do it to you.
I also told you that you are not ready to debate on the advanced topics. The devil has made it so that you think that you do not need the cross. The greatest deceit the devil ever did was to make you think he doesn't exist. In turn his two tactics are to make you think that you do not need the cross or that you are too sinful to draw near to the cross.
Why should I listen to the Bible instead of you though? I mean, you did read these topics right?
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-accurate.htmlhttps://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66318140&f=125Alright let's talk about the terrorists who die in the name of their god...are you willing to die for your micky mouse prophet that you wrote on your napkin?
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=99644580&f=119&p=650511756#p650511756Didn't think so.
Oh you want an emotional argument? I'll gladly give you many emotional arguments by singing songs that is reminiscent of how great our God is and the songs we sing at Church!
Here is the first of many songs of praise.
This is called: I Thank God.
Lyrics:
Wandering into the night
Wanting a place to hide
This weary soul, this bag of bones
And I tried with all my mind
And I just can't win the fight
I'm slowly drifting, oh vagabond
And just when I ran out of road
I met a man I didn't know
And he told me
That I was not alone
He picked me up
He turned me around
He placed my feet on solid ground
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
Because He healed my heart
He changed my name
Forever free, I'm not the same
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
I thank God
I cannot deny what I see
Got no choice but to believeMy doubts are burning
Like ashes in the wind
So, so long to my old friends
Burden and bitter night
You can't just keep them moving
No, you ain't welcome here
From now 'til I walk
The streets of gold
I'll sing of how You saved my soul
This wayward son
Has found his way back home
He picked me up
Turned me around
Placed my feet on solid ground
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
Because He healed my heart
Changed my name
Forever free, I'm not the same
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
Oh, I thank God
Oh, I thank God
Oh, I thank God
Oh, I thank God
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, yes I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
Hell lost another one
I am free, I am free, I am free
He picked me up
He turned me around
He placed my feet on solid ground
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
Because He healed my heart
He changed my name
Forever free, I'm not the same
I thank the Master
I thank the Savior
I thank God