The responsible states will certainly shine with this. Iowa was doing a good job for a week but it fell apart faster than I expected tbh. Des Moines is close to business as usual

Confirmed cases isn't really a good measure since it can just represent expanded testing
The amount of people hospitalized from it is probably the most objective metric, and MN is one of the states that's posting that, some are, some aren't.
We're up to 12 dead, 26 hospitalized, 629 confirmed.

Ya in midwest Minnesota and Wisconsin are clearly setting the example here

Rest of us are showing our colors

I don’t understand California’s numbers tbh

Edit:
Numbers in this post conflict a bit with what we should be expecting. It’s not likely that half the patients being admitted are dying. Probably have some outstanding inpatient tests tbh


This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 31 2020 03:06pm

i don't know if you genuinely believe that to be a valid argument, or if you're just grasping at straws, but here's some really basic and easily understandable facts to consider:

death rates are an incredibly unreliable metric for comparison at this point, not only due to the fact that the overwhelming percentage of cases is still active, but also because testing is still at such a horrible state. also, different countries use different methods to calculate it (which is amongst the reasons that germany's is so surprisingly low atm), and the two countries are at different stages of their first wave.

When it is all said and done, it will be the metric we're all rated on.

So i'm very suspicious of the incoming future when i see my country ordering 1 billion masks the time to get factories producing dozens of millions.
This bad joke will continue for a full year or more or what ??



Arguing around testing is just your new low.

Tbh France’s11.6 beds per 100k vs US 34.7 beds per 100k explains this difference in mortality rate quite predictably

If you are unable to realize Fra and Us are not at the same stage of the pandemic ii simply cannot help you at all.
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We better to move on, this is a long run story, especially with second wave etc...

Test results in California are routinely being delayed a week+ from test date.

In terms of anecdotal information, it's unsettling to watch traffic increase daily. We did really well the first week or so, but I'm expecting there to be traffic delays again by the end of next week.

2nd wave = mute point given no country in the world is at that point. Pointless statement, further more I would go as far as to say the US will be far better prepared for a 2nd wave than any European country given the amount of imaginary dollars we have available, for better or for worse.

If you think 10 days out our mortality rate will even be 50% of France you are delusional. Don’t get me wrong 2% is high enough and our healthcare systems are vastly underprepared for what is hitting/going to hit us, but we aren’t anywhere close to European level of ‘under resourced’

I cannot speak for France but my experience with U.K. hospitals is that the standard of American medicine is undeniably higher than that of U.K. hospitals. They have an even smaller icu bed:population ratio than France. What I can tell you definitively is that the next time euro health consumer index comes out the rankings will certainly be adjusted. Cough cough Italy and France will not be above Germany

This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 31 2020 04:03pm