The question is why do people like zark feel the need for increasing integration? IMO they're already too integrated and it's causing nationalistic sentiments in countries like Italy, UK, Hungary...

that's exactly my point: the true value of the EU lies in its ability to negotiate more favorable trade agreements than each member state could on its own, in saving money by a more joint military, in joint consumer protection standards, corporate taxation and so on. what all these things have in common is that those are areas where the EU states have interests which are almost perfectly algined. but for all these things, we dont actually need more integration.

moreover, Brussels politics is heavily influenced, if not outright controlled, by the big multinational corporations and their lobbyists. the current EU is serving their interests and their interests alone.

privileged trash working for BBC caught shitting on the working class by comparing them to "Amazonian cannibals, creatures from outer space"

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1094611701926895616

Lol this piece of shit is so butthurted:
" Freelance Journalist. My opinions are my own. Blocked by my local weather channel. "
The salt is real He deserve a black version of the titanic.

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Trigger news!

Germany needs 260,000 foreign workers per year until 2060 to meet labour shortages study shows

https://www.dw.com/en/study-germany-needs-260000-immigrants-a-year-to-meet-labor-demand/a-47470731




This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 12 2019 04:40am

complete bullshit "study" from the bertelsmann mass migration promoters

the demand for workers will go down dramatically in the next decades so we should embrace a slightly declining population as a blessing
not to mention that we are still at around 200k additional migrants per year as we speak
how many more until these morons are satisfied?

too bad that the vast majority are illiterates with no intention and ability to work here

and lets be honest, no skilled foreigner with a choice will choose germany, wages are shit, taxes ridiculous etc

This post was edited by ampoo on Feb 12 2019 06:50am

https://www.economist.com/special-report/2013/06/15/erasmus-generation
To overcome its skills shortage, Germany needs to remodel its society


=> Not sure about the "skills" but the article, however, is from 2013.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 12 2019 07:17am

the study comes from a notoriously pro-corporate think tank which - not surprisingly - has been backing mass immigration for quite some time.

the major flaw of the study is that it uses an a priori assumption as the starting point for its calculation: that germany absolutely depends on maintaining the size of its workforce.
but in a world where we are producing goods with ever increasing efficiency, this is just not a realistic assumption, which in turn renders all the calculation built up on this viewpoint moot.

specifically, as ampoo already mentioned, our newspaper are at the same time full of articles from other economic think tanks saying that digitalization will eliminate about 25-40% of our jobs over the next two decades. so in this sense, some "downsizing" would be good and even necessary anyway.

another major caveat of the bertelsmann study is that it calls for the immigration of 260k foreigners into the workforce. the kind of non-EU immigration we are seeing in recent years, however, is largely into our welfare system and not into the workforce.

and even more worrisome is the fact that these workforce immigrants would need to match a very specific qualification profile if they were to replace the retiring german workers - and even under a tough immigration regimen in which we shut the door to everyone who doesnt help us and only let those in that we really need, it is exceedingly unlikely that we would even be able to find enough non-EU immigrants with these specific qualifications. so these more highly-qualified jobs which will become vacant due to our demographic change must be filled with immgirants who are already in the country and currently are children, so that they can undergo our entire education system and become prepared to take on these specific jobs. filling these jobs with freshly-arriving non-EU immigrants, as Bertelsmann is proposing, will not work anyway.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 12 2019 07:57am

it is correct that our total labour force is decreasing, only logical
however this narrative is based on false assumptions
there is no shortage of workers in germany, both skilled and low skilled
the sheer number of reported available jobs does NOT give a correct impression of the actual market situation as too many factors are not included

wages are in a terrible state, we have record numbers of working poor and people in temporary employment agencies despite working in jobs we allegedly need so much
even engineers with a university degree are affected heavily

the big corporations are of course interested to keep going, more people means more pressure on the market for everyone and maximum profit for them
those they do not need can be "disposed of" in the german welfare state

good for the guy in the article, he and his family are welcome in our country, however he cant serve as proof for a false narrative

Others studies:

Germany could lack 3 million skilled workers by 2030, study finds
https://www.thelocal.de/20170830/germany-could-lack-33-million-skilled-workers-by-2040-study


Nice, really. The workforce shortage is happening nearly everywhere in Europe and isn't new.
Germany has one of the most active economy AND one of the lowest birthrate, while german women are already 70% working.
Who will pay retirements btw ?

Certainly not some guy from Africa who's leeching off of our welfare system, doesnt speak 10 words of German and is not even literate in his own native language.