For centuries, historians have relied on ancient writings to understand the past. We read the works of Plato, Aristotle, Caesar, and Homer without hesitation—even though the surviving manuscripts were often copied hundreds or even thousands of years after the originals were written.
But when it comes to the New Testament, the evidence is dramatically stronger.
The New Testament is supported by thousands of ancient manuscripts, with some fragments dating to within a generation of the original writings. By comparison, many classical works survive in only a handful of copies separated from the originals by centuries. The New Testament’s manuscript tradition allows scholars to compare texts across regions and time periods, making it possible to identify copying errors and reconstruct the original wording with remarkable confidence.
This doesn’t automatically prove every theological claim in the New Testament. But it does demonstrate something important: the New Testament is not a legend that evolved in the shadows of history. It is one of the best-documented collections of ancient writings in existence.
If we trust the preservation of other ancient books, consistency requires us to take the New Testament’s historical reliability seriously.



Therefore if you cannot trust the Bible then you may as well go ahead and create 4 more threads saying that Plato, Caesar, Aristotle and Homer were all fake and never existed.

You are correct I was doing a lot of assuming.

Credit where credit is due, I think there should be praise given medical teams for choosing to keep their crap together to serve people while also thanking Christ for whatever he's doing during that time.

But I view his comment as satire and I think he's entitled to his own opinions.

The bible is not a soundboard for others to project their personal beliefs and feelings. Just like a street directory isn't either. It's a guide.
The path and pages people reference when using the bible or a street directory will be individual but that doesn't mean they aren't true.

You are talking as if the whole bible is mythological too. It's not.
The bible in it's entirety covers all aspects of literature.
Some aspects of it incorporate suggestiveness but not the entire thing.

Jerusalem is not a mythological place remember. The ten commandments aren't mythological. And a leviathan is not a lie, it's called writing with creativity, innovation and style. Think of literature like a musical instrument. You have different styles of music too. Just like you have different writing styles in the bible of how messages are portrayed. If you play a different style of music that doesn't mean you are telling a lie...

And I did not say the supernatural can not be proven. I said it can not be proven using the scientific method. The supernatural is part of nature and always will be that is the truth.

This post was edited by Insein on Jun 19 2026 05:11am

little something i found

Satyrs
Question? - Newsletter - New! - Ad Space
Mythical Animals in the Bible!
Behemoth / Leviathan - Cockatrice
Dragons - Phoenix Bird - Unicorns
https://www.biblestudy.org/bible-study-by-topic/mythical-animals-in-the-bible/satyr.html

couple of excerpts


curious? dancing goats?
"kid" of the goats? a goats young are called "kid"

dancing baby goat


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 19 2026 09:07am

Let me stop you right there bud. I already explained why people like Caesar are likely to be real while Adam, Eve and the talking serpent were not.
You are still not getting it and continue to treat magic and non magic as if they are the same.

Answer this question do you believe in Zoroastra or Osiris or thousands of other gods that also rely on trust?

No ofc not, the only difference between you and me is you don't believe in 99.99% of other gods while I don't believe in 100%.
If you add one more god to your non belief pile you would be exactly where I am.

This renders your entire argument about trust/hearsay void because magical beings were never proven and cannot be taken on trust alone. If you wish to trust in one magical god you need to trust them all otherwise you are just irrationally cherrypicking beliefs based on subjective feelings.

A street directory or a map that is open to individual interpretation will have people end up on different streets lol. If you cannot arrive to the same destination the map is rendered useless or ineffective. If the guide is too vague its no longer a guide like a fortune cookie it becomes meaningless.

Nice self own.

Writing styles are one thing the truth or authenticity of it's claims is another. If you are implying bible is metaphorical/allegorical style like Shakespeare or LoTR then I agree.
Jerusalem is a real place doesn't make Jesus walk on water or resurrect people from the dead just like New York is a real place doesn't mean Peter Parker could shoot spiderwebs from his hands. Your argument for magic is invalid.