Well, if you consider the UK to be its people, its standard of living and the services offered to the citizens living there, then I'd argue that in the long run they'd be better off in a strongly united Europe that competes in the same league as the US, China and Russia, rather than clinging on to nationalist identities and short term profits.

the problem is that the economic and cultural differences within the EU are too big to ignore. a strongly united Europe in the sense of "United States of Europe" could only work with massive redistribution from the rich to the poor countries, on a much much larger scale than what we already have with the EU structural funds and so on. such a step would obviously be good for the corporations operating in Europe, but it would be bad for the residents of the more developed european countries. moreover, the smaller countries rightfully fear that this would result in some sort of "cultural hegemony" by Brussels bureaucrats.


the future of the EU lies in cooperation where cooperating represents a win-win situation for everyone (e.g. military, free trade agreements, consumer protection standards), and to step away from further integration in situations where integration would lead to a win-lose situation.

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Brexiteer Nigel Farage launches new 'Brexit Party,' threatens to run for office again

https://www.dw.com/en/brexiteer-nigel-farage-launches-new-brexit-party-threatens-to-run-for-office-again/a-47436462

=> Can the scam works a second time ? I think it could but not as much than before.

please post your non sense shit here:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=80073264&f=119

Liberal lefties getting handouts from the state, thought you'd hate that little man?

The bureaucratic culture of the EU is definitely the biggest problem of the union. It's something that needs to be changed for further integration to take place, that's for sure.

Assuming we fixed that issue, redistribution would be good for everyone in the long run. If countries like Bulgaria and Romania can produce successful and productive companies and individuals at the same level as other countries, it'll be beneficial. It's not about making everybody equal, but more about making sure everyone has equal chances of giving their best, regardless of which member state they live in, so that we can have a truly meritocratic society. The EU has half a billion people living within its borders... if we can maximize the baseline conditions for everyone, we can have a fully efficient meritocracy, creating the perfect environment for competition in the multipolar world of the future.

Spanish government sources have leaked to the press that Pedro Sánchez will call for national elections if the Catalan separatist parties don't vote favorably for his national budget in the next two weeks. Elections would be held on the 14th of April, according to most of the press, so as to not interfere with the super-election day (european, munincipal and regional elections).

This is clearly Sánchez trying to pressure the separatists. After yesterday's demonstration, Sánchez wants to scare them.... he's basically saying "I need the budget to keep my presidency going, and if I'm forced to call elections now because of you... well, look at all these people... are you sure you want them to be in charge of the presidency?"

for that the EU needs to be rebuilt from scratch, if not completely scrapped and newly founded
the people there right now certainly wont go away if we ask them nicely

redistribution will never work and only serves to decrease the desire for these countries to improve on their own

italy is the best example, they will never fix their deficit, corruption, piling up target2 debts and ridiculous spending policy as long as the money flows from the north

i am fine with financing infrastructure and providing opportunites, but everything else needs to stop
we are achieving the exact opposite of what the EU is telling us, right now we are not getting bulgaria and romania up to our level, we are going down to theirs, while brussels continues to grab more power

also we need to rethink the migration of workers within the EU to stop the brain drain
i dont need to tell a spaniard how many young and skilled people have left thanks to the shitty employment market
the local hospital here built extra houses for the spanish nurses and workers, that came here in the last 5 years

thats the irony of the mass migration debate, people talk about controlling migration on the planet....we cant even control it properly within the EU