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Mar 25 2019 09:59am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2019 07:55am)
let's be honest: his lukewarm campaign didnt matter. no republican candidate would have been able to defeat obama in 2008. Obama was a great campaigner, and he was still fresh, people didnt know yet what a murky president he'd go on to be. on top of that, the national mood was strongly leaning towards the dems anyway after the bush presidency, with two disastrous wars, a huge economic crisis, a botched hurricane response and so on.

Obama was unbeatable in 2008. I think the fundamentals were so much against republicans in 2008 that not even Reagan could have defeated Hillary in that year.


Obama would still be unbeatable. Might be the second most charismatic person alive in America after Bill Clinton (maybe the #1 since Clinton is senile).

Same that no one in the Dem field captures the very cool undeniable charisma of Obama or Clinton.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/michael-avenatti-is-charged-with-trying-to-extort-nike-nke

California lawyer Michael Avenatti was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with attempting to extort millions of dollars out of Nike Inc. by threatening to release damaging information about the company, which did not meet his demands, Bloomberg News reports.


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Quote (IceMage @ 25 Mar 2019 18:10)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/michael-avenatti-is-charged-with-trying-to-extort-nike-nke

California lawyer Michael Avenatti was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with attempting to extort millions of dollars out of Nike Inc. by threatening to release damaging information about the company, which did not meet his demands, Bloomberg News reports.


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^_^ :lol:

Michael "I'm the dirtiest player around" Avenatti playing it dirty. Call me surprised. :rofl:
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 25 2019 05:10pm)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/michael-avenatti-is-charged-with-trying-to-extort-nike-nke

California lawyer Michael Avenatti was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with attempting to extort millions of dollars out of Nike Inc. by threatening to release damaging information about the company, which did not meet his demands, Bloomberg News reports.


https://media.giphy.com/media/bXE0iECrH9xJe/giphy.gif


dammit beat me to it
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 25 2019 12:10pm)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/michael-avenatti-is-charged-with-trying-to-extort-nike-nke

California lawyer Michael Avenatti was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with attempting to extort millions of dollars out of Nike Inc. by threatening to release damaging information about the company, which did not meet his demands, Bloomberg News reports.


https://media.giphy.com/media/bXE0iECrH9xJe/giphy.gif


Is he still considering a presidential bid?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 25 Mar 2019 11:55)
let's be honest: his lukewarm campaign didnt matter. no republican candidate would have been able to defeat obama in 2008. Obama was a great campaigner, and he was still fresh, people didnt know yet what a murky president he'd go on to be. on top of that, the national mood was strongly leaning towards the dems anyway after the bush presidency, with two disastrous wars, a huge economic crisis, a botched hurricane response and so on.

Obama was unbeatable in 2008. I think the fundamentals were so much against republicans in 2008 that not even Reagan could have defeated Hillary in that year.

it didn't matter when it came to the scoreboard yeah, no one was beating Obama in 2008 (doubt anyone would have been in him '12 either), but it matters in perception of a candidate and a politician. go down swinging or just say 'eh whatever im not winning this so i quit'.

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Is he still considering a presidential bid?


lol baldy basta boy at it again huh. he's been the sainted savior of the privledged lefties and still is


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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 25 2019 10:10am)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/michael-avenatti-is-charged-with-trying-to-extort-nike-nke

California lawyer Michael Avenatti was charged by federal prosecutors in New York with attempting to extort millions of dollars out of Nike Inc. by threatening to release damaging information about the company, which did not meet his demands, Bloomberg News reports.


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