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Mar 25 2019 09:06am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2019 08:02am)
yes, but I feel like he's "broken up" with her after the shutdown debacle.


and if he loses voices like coulter which he has and they become hostile which some have

he needs to make up support with less extreme people which he has not

it won't be an easy win for him either way but he will need either an enthusiast base (which he is unlikely to have) or get people outside of that base

which he has made no progress on

as you've mentioned in other posts his approval rating is a problem and he's going to need to pick up support and/or enthusiasm from somewhere and no signs are telling us he has a good plan for that (yet)
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At least we can agree he's a symbol of renewed white identity, amirite brother?


Shit, twenty years from now, if people want to cling to white identity, the only place you'll be at home is on heavily armed compounds in the Pacific Northwest.
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March 25, 2019, 7:42 AM PDT
By Michael Steel, managing director, Hamilton Place Strategies

There is no rational reason for President Donald Trump to continue attacking the late Sen. John McCain — so why does he do it? In the past few days the president has hammered the former statesman for being weak on veterans, “badly hurting the Republican Party, badly hurting our nation and hurting many sick people.” He also complained that he “never got a thank you” for giving McCain the funeral he wanted. Through it all, his staff cringes, elected Republicans grimace and condemn, his strongest supporters get uncomfortable and evasive. Nevertheless, he persists.

The two politicians differed on many issues, domestic and foreign. But the depths of Trump’s resentment seem to extend beyond a typical political rivalry. Trump can’t let McCain rest in peace because on some level, conscious or subconscious, he fears he will not be remembered as a great man — or really even a good one.

Trump can’t let McCain rest in peace because on some level, conscious or subconscious, he fears he will not be remembered as a great man.


The late senator’s famous “thumbs down” gesture during the heated 2017 vote over Congress’s “skinny repeal” of Obamacare gave the president his first major legislative defeat. Clearly, years later, the moment still stings. Ending the faltering “repeal and replace” effort at that point probably saved Republicans from a greater political disaster in last year’s midterm elections, but it should have been followed — as McCain suggested at the time — by a new effort to repeal Obamacare and replace it with legislation developed and passed through regular order, with committee hearings and markups.

Trump seems more eager, though, to complain and play the victim than to do the hard work of developing and advocating for a conservative policy solution on America’s very real healthcare issues. This has been true for healthcare, and it’s also been true for many other GOP policy challenges and Trump campaign promises.

McCain was also the most stalwart defenders of the post-World War Two international order, advocating for a strong NATO alliance, a robust U.S. military presence overseas, and victory in the long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump sees much of that as a mistake — a waste of time and money that drains America’s coffers and costs jobs here at home.

Perhaps more critically, McCain was among the strongest opponents in the Senate of treating the President Vladimir Putin’s regime in Russia as if it were a legitimate and normal nation. His support was critical to the bipartisan passage of the Magnitsky Act, which subjects Russians suspected of human rights abuses to sanctions and bans on travel to the United States. Trump, for reasons known only to God — and, perhaps, Robert Mueller — is keenly interested in exactly the opposite: normalizing relations with Russia, and explaining away Putin’s aggression and misdeeds.

Finally, there is the contrast between the life McCain led, and the legacy he left and the life and legacy of the president. McCain led a life of dedicated and heroic public service. As a naval aviator, a prisoner of war, congressman and senator, he always put, as his 2008 presidential campaign slogan put it, “country first.” The president, on the other hand, avoided service in the Vietnam War entirely using means that… well, I think it’s fair to call him a draft dodger. He then parlayed his inheritance into celebrity, the slick and gaudy appearance of success in real estate, ghostwritten books, and eventually television stardom.

At roughly the time John McCain was enduring five years of torture and abuse as a prisoner of war in Hanoi, Donald Trump was cruising Manhattan in a limousine with his initials on the license plate and buying cocktails for models in the Peacock Alley bar at the Waldorf Astoria hotel.

What historic figures do in life echoes in our nation’s memory of them. When John McCain passed away last year, he was buried with honor, and with the respect and affection of grateful nation. The end of his story is still yet to be written, but perhaps Donald Trump doubts the same will be true of him when his time comes. I think that’s why the president can’t seem to let this pointless, destructive and distasteful one-sided feud go. He seems haunted by the ghost of a better man.

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Mar 25 2019 09:34am
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Seriously? That's a shit take fam. John McCain was a warmongering piece of shit that sent Americans to die in pointless wars and sent planes and drones to blow innocent people to bits. Fuck this shit about him being a war hero, dropping bombs on Vietnamese peasants from 50,000 feet. If he was a real hero, he would have been killed before being taken by the enemy to record apologies on behave of the military. Instead he got to sit out the war behind enemy lines instead of marching through the shitty jungles waiting for some fuck in a tree to plant one in his chest.

There is positively no reason to respect John McCain, and I wish I could say this to the faces of his surviving family, especially his mother. If there is a Hell, it exists for people like John McCain. Hell, the only reason the media likes to jerk his dick so much is because he was a MAVeRIKC, a decade ago they were calling him McSame Hitler pants. It's fine to shit on Trump, but John McCain deserves no respect. Also, in the context of him warring with Trump, Trump was in the right. The whole thing started when McCain referred to Trump's early supporters as "crazies". Those are Americans, the people he's supposed to fucking serve. Instead he marched around like the King of Arizona. Ohhhh, poor McSame, he was injured in war don't you know. Meanwhile he did very well for himself compared to all the soldiers who got blown away or died destitute due to mental sickness and addiction.

You know why people really like John McCain and hate Trump? Because McCain was able to lose when he was supposed to. It should be telling that Trump managed to win after the two losing candidates preceding him became his two heaviest critics. It really tells you how disconnected the establishment GOP and hacks like McSame and R-Money are from the voter base.

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Damn fucking shit eating republican shit scum trash sucker ass banger mcsame motha fucka.



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This post was edited by PlasmaSnake101 on Mar 25 2019 09:35am
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Seriously? That's a shit take fam. John McCain was a warmongering piece of shit that sent Americans to die in pointless wars and sent planes and drones to blow innocent people to bits. Fuck this shit about him being a war hero, dropping bombs on Vietnamese peasants from 50,000 feet. If he was a real hero, he would have been killed before being taken by the enemy to record apologies on behave of the military. Instead he got to sit out the war behind enemy lines instead of marching through the shitty jungles waiting for some fuck in a tree to plant one in his chest.

There is positively no reason to respect John McCain, and I wish I could say this to the faces of his surviving family, especially his mother. If there is a Hell, it exists for people like John McCain. Hell, the only reason the media likes to jerk his dick so much is because he was a MAVeRIKC, a decade ago they were calling him McSame Hitler pants. It's fine to shit on Trump, but John McCain deserves no respect. Also, in the context of him warring with Trump, Trump was in the right. The whole thing started when McCain referred to Trump's early supporters as "crazies". Those are Americans, the people he's supposed to fucking serve. Instead he marched around like the King of Arizona. Ohhhh, poor McSame, he was injured in war don't you know. Meanwhile he did very well for himself compared to all the soldiers who got blown away or died destitute due to mental sickness and addiction.

You know why people really like John McCain and hate Trump? Because McCain was able to lose when he was supposed to. It should be telling that Trump managed to win after the two losing candidates preceding him became his two heaviest critics. It really tells you how disconnected the establishment GOP and hacks like McSame and R-Money are from the voter base.

Lest we forget:


Eat a snickers, dude!
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Mar 25 2019 09:43am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Mar 25 2019 08:34am)
Seriously? That's a shit take fam. John McCain was a warmongering piece of shit that sent Americans to die in pointless wars and sent planes and drones to blow innocent people to bits. Fuck this shit about him being a war hero, dropping bombs on Vietnamese peasants from 50,000 feet. If he was a real hero, he would have been killed. Instead he got to sit out the war behind enemy lines instead of marching through the shitty jungles waiting for some fuck in a tree to plant one in your chest.

There is positively no reason to respect John McCain, and I wish I could say this to the faces of his surviving family, especially his mother. If there is a Hell, it exists for people like John McCain. Hell, the only reason the media likes to jerk his dick so much is because he was a MAVeRIKC, a decade ago they were calling him McSame Hitler pants. It's fine to shit on Trump, but John McCain deserves no respect. Also, in the context of him warring with Trump, Trump was in the right. The whole thing started when McCain referred to Trump's early supporters as "crazies". Those are Americans, the people he's supposed to fucking serve. Instead he marched around like the King of Arizona. Ohhhh, poor McSame, he was injured in war don't you know. Meanwhile he did very well for himself compared to all the soldiers who got blown away or died destitute due to mental sickness and addiction.

You know why people really like John McCain and hate Trump? Because McCain was able to lose when he was supposed to. It should be telling that Trump managed to win after the two losing candidates preceding him became his two heaviest critics. It really tells you how disconnected the establishment GOP and hacks like McSame and R-Money are from the voter base.

Lest we forget:


The time for this type of rhetoric is over. The man is gone. Only his family is harmed by this.

One does not need to support McCain's politics or his personal life to realize when the political battle is over. People don't need to respect him or his service, that is not the point. The point is it's over. It's time to let his family and his friends live in peace.

It's time for the President to be a leader and act with dignity and respect for his office. It's best for the country that he stops his one sided war against a dead man that served his country, even if a person doesn't respect that service
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Mar 25 2019 09:43am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2019 07:38am)
Eat a snickers, dude!


Sorry, I didn't sleep much last night. I just get so frustrated over John McCain. I honestly don't think anyone actually liked him, they just felt obliged to. God he was an awful Presidential candidate.

Dumb woman: "He's an Arab"
McSame: "No, no, no, he's a good man with a great family and would be a great president, probably even better than me please be nice to my opponent."

It's funny in retrospect to see how much he didn't even want it. Shame he had to drag Palin into it. I think she comes off a lot more stupid than she is, but she would have been much better off staying obscure in Alaska.
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Mar 25 2019 09:48am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ 25 Mar 2019 11:43)
Sorry, I didn't sleep much last night. I just get so frustrated over John McCain. I honestly don't think anyone actually liked him, they just felt obliged to. God he was an awful Presidential candidate.

Dumb woman: "He's an Arab"
McSame: "No, no, no, he's a good man with a great family and would be a great president, probably even better than me please be nice to my opponent."

It's funny in retrospect to see how much he didn't even want it. Shame he had to drag Palin into it. I think she comes off a lot more stupid than she is, but she would have been much better off staying obscure in Alaska.


McCain was an odd Presidential candidate.. he wanted the job itself, but not what went into getting it. he spent half his campaign bashing his VP choice like a typical misogynist, and the other half apologizing on behalf of then-Senator Obama's parents for giving him the middle name Hussein.
Senator McCain never got to be Admiral like his father and never got to be President like Trump. these were the driving forces of his political decision-making for 35+ years, from the time he started his political career fully funded by his 2nd wife's family money until he was laid to rest earlier this year.
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Mar 25 2019 09:55am
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McCain was an odd Presidential candidate.. he wanted the job itself, but not what went into getting it. he spent half his campaign bashing his VP choice like a typical misogynist, and the other half apologizing on behalf of then-Senator Obama's parents for giving him the middle name Hussein.
Senator McCain never got to be Admiral like his father and never got to be President like Trump. these were the driving forces of his political decision-making for 35+ years, from the time he started his political career fully funded by his 2nd wife's family money until he was laid to rest earlier this year.


let's be honest: his lukewarm campaign didnt matter. no republican candidate would have been able to defeat obama in 2008. Obama was a great campaigner, and he was still fresh, people didnt know yet what a murky president he'd go on to be. on top of that, the national mood was strongly leaning towards the dems anyway after the bush presidency, with two disastrous wars, a huge economic crisis, a botched hurricane response and so on.

Obama was unbeatable in 2008. I think the fundamentals were so much against republicans in 2008 that not even Reagan could have defeated Hillary in that year.
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Mar 25 2019 09:57am
Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 25 2019 07:43am)
The time for this type of rhetoric is over. The man is gone. Only his family is harmed by this.

One does not need to support McCain's politics or his personal life to realize when the political battle is over. People don't need to respect him or his service, that is not the point. The point is it's over. It's time to let his family and his friends live in peace.

It's time for the President to be a leader and act with dignity and respect for his office. It's best for the country that he stops his one sided war against a dead man that served his country, even if a person doesn't respect that service


Nah. I don't care about his family. His dumb fat daughter is hateable in her own right.

If you asked me "what do you think of McCain", you would have gotten a cleaned up version of my dumb 14 year old tier rant. Trump being honest and shitting on McCain is one of the only things he's done lately that I approve of. He's worthless in every other capacity. I'm assuming he brought up McCain because someone asked about the McCain Dossier thing. And in any case, his answer was harmless. "Yeah, I never really liked John McCain and thought he was an asshole for lying to us about how he was gonna vote on the skinny repeal." Alright, are you not allowed to mention you don't like the dead fuck?
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