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Nov 17 2021 02:57pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 17 2021 01:49pm)
i get what you mean but that's not the case here.

the jury has not yet called for the clearer video, so they're not atm reviewing it. so in their head the have "the prosecutor said he was provoked" but arent watching the clear video of that, because they think only a blurry video exists.


There should be a mechanism without going to a mistrial to provide the Jury this additional information as well as giving both prosecution and defence a round to speak to it if its deemed groundbreaking and in this case I think that its evident given the prosecution built their case around provocation.

Perhaps that sets bad precedent for the future.
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Nov 17 2021 03:00pm
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There should be a mechanism without going to a mistrial to provide the Jury this additional information as well as giving both prosecution and defence a round to speak to it if its deemed groundbreaking and in this case I think that its evident given the prosecution built their case around provocation.

Perhaps that sets bad precedent for the future.


sadly afaik there isn't. prosecution rests its case, defense takes over, then rests its case, both then make closing arguments directly to the jury. then they argue over fair instructions to the jury w/o them in court, then the instructions are given, then its closed. over. the jury can ask for things, but they're in a bubble.
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Nov 17 2021 03:02pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 17 2021 03:09pm)
So people who actually own iPhones have been testing it out:

>I took a video that is 59.4MB. When airdropping it remains 59.4MB. When emailing via Gmail for iPhone it gets renamed IMG_0227.MOV and compressed to 15.3MB.

The most likely explanation is that the prosecutors, who are technologically illiterate, emailed the file directly from an iPhone, unaware that they were compressing and renaming it on their end.
The defense thus never received the higher resolution video from the prosecutors, through no fault of their own. It does not, however, show intentional prosecutorial misconduct. It is cause for a mistrial, but on its own, not one with prejudice.


boomer technology illiteracy is a felony offense. there definitely is prejudice.
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Nov 17 2021 03:07pm
So the jury is now going to watch the new Ghostbusters movie in the courtroom? Will popcorn be provided?

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Nov 17 2021 03:14pm
If Kyle doesn't walk, this is proof that the USA is now full blown communist. No fucking way.
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Nov 17 2021 03:18pm
the idea that you can prove provocation without a reasonable doubt based on a blob from drone footage a country mile away is insane.

I hope there are some decent people on the jury that will stick with their 'convictions' (or lack thereof)
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Nov 17 2021 03:20pm
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the idea that you can prove provocation without a reasonable doubt based on a blob from drone footage a country mile away is insane.

I hope there are some decent people on the jury that will stick with their 'convictions' (or lack thereof)


Apparently they were ready last night to deliver but there's 2 holding it up.
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the idea that you can prove provocation without a reasonable doubt based on a blob from drone footage a country mile away is insane.

I hope there are some decent people on the jury that will stick with their 'convictions' (or lack thereof)


The fact that the jury is even humoring this "evidence" this seriously shows that they weren't even paying attention throughout the entire trial. Am now extremely worried for Kyle - its looking like we're about to see a retard political verdict.

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The fact that the jury is even humoring this "evidence" this seriously shows that they weren't even paying attention throughout the entire trial. Am now extremely worried for Kyle - its looking like we're about to see a retard political verdict.


yeah - almost certainly some super biased democrats on the jury.

at this point i dont think its likely they sway everyone else tho

Quote (lolkggz @ Nov 17 2021 04:20pm)
Apparently they were ready last night to deliver but there's 2 holding it up.


I heard that but not sure how reliable it is.

i also heard there was a group of 4 or 5 suspected pro-state jurors that started sitting with each other
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the idea that you can prove provocation without a reasonable doubt based on a blob from drone footage a country mile away is insane.

I hope there are some decent people on the jury that will stick with their 'convictions' (or lack thereof)


The idea that if you point a weapon at someone, they then chase u down, try and attack you, and you shoot them with the gun you pointed at them, after running away from the person you supposedly pointed a gun at for several hundred feet, you're then guilty of murder, was always a silly argument to make.

the issue is the defense cant walk out that hypothetical, because it puts in the jury's mind that Kyle did point a gun at people, which by all evidence except yellowpant's video testimony, he didn't.

if someone points a gun at me, i put my hands up, they turn to walk away, i chase them a football field or so distance, into a corner, and they shoot me. i deserved to die, and they deserve AT MOST to be charged with brandishing a weapon. which of course wasnt charged, because there's zero evidence it happened, and pedo is dead, OH YA and druggie #1 and #2 are not testifying, for "reasons". zisshitsky could have taken the stand and said under oath kyle pointed a gun at them. the guy closest to the shooting wont say shit, or wasnt asked to.
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