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Mar 19 2019 08:36am
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 19 2019 09:06am)
oh pls
Through the 90s and 00's the voice of the republican party was bible thumpers playing dumb while fearmongering and now its insufferable intellectuals giving monologues about nuance.
It used to be the case that republicans were defined by the likes of Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, GWB, etc talking about their 'gut' and how jesus talks to them and sneering at atheists. Rush Limbaugh would shout angrily at people and Bill O'Reilly was a smug asshole. Now its a generation of neo-brooks-brothers-rioting young republicans like ben shapiro. Notice how Ted Cruz has played out half of Flowers from Algernon as he went from pretending to be retarded while emulating Bush to being an adroit memester on social media as he emulates Trump. Instead of being a smug asshole screaming at people, Tucker Carlson is a smug in his passive-aggression as he tries to draw as much attention possible to "I'm being civil and fair, unlike the MSM~!".

Having lived through an era when conservatism was defined by how much god you can deepthroat, I don't see how it can be compared to an era where half the republicans age 18-35 have watched a sargon of akkad video


You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.

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Mar 19 2019 08:37am
Quote (Ghot @ Mar 19 2019 09:30am)
No one cares. Trump isn't a socialist and he doesn't hate whites. Two winning stances these days. LOL


I'll take "Posts completely tangential to the topic" for $500, Alex.
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Mar 19 2019 08:38am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 19 2019 09:28am)
This would likely be among the reasons why some people want to see Trump's tax returns:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/business/trump-deutsche-bank.html

Bank fraud, at minimum, if this is determined to be true.

Also, relationship with Trump notwithstanding, Deutsche Bank has it own litany of problems (enough that it is currently involved in merger talks with Commerzbank).


It's already baked in that Trump is a criminal.

- Everybody who said Trump wasn't a criminal in 2016
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Mar 19 2019 08:38am
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You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.



Well, we are TRYING gto make it simple enough for the left to understand, but it still doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we need a crayon mod for posting on JSP. ^^



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Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 19 2019 09:37am)
I'll take "Posts completely tangential to the topic" for $500, Alex.


I repeat, no one (the 61% of this country) cares wtf Trump's taxes show. The entire left or Dems, blames everything on the largest racial segment of the US, and expects their sympathy. AND if that weren't enough, they also want the people (whoever they are) that work the hardest to pay the way for those that don't, aka socialism.

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You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.

:rolleyes:
drumpf does it on purpose, you do it because you lack the ability to.

>loses arguments to a bunch of memes, calls everyone he doesn't like 'deplorables beyond redemption' like his loser privileged lefty candidate

no wonder you're bitter blasphemous privileged lefty :rofl: poor icepon provides no value to society other than being a virtual example of what not to be in life. hoping the President (and by extension our country) will fail for over a decade now; we are quite lucky and blessed that this country is able to carry dead weight like yourself going around trying to drag everyone else down to your sorry little level.

e: reported, btw

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Mar 19 2019 08:46am
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You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.


there's a difference between knowledge, intellect, and how someone represents themselves to the public. Would you prefer someone who looked good to the world (great speeches, friendly with allies, etc) but made questionable decisions or someone who looked questionable to the world but made good decisions?
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Mar 19 2019 08:52am
Quote (Ghot @ Mar 19 2019 09:38am)
Well, we are TRYING gto make it simple enough for the left to understand, but it still doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we need a crayon mod for posting on JSP. ^^



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I repeat, no one (the 61% of this country) cares wtf Trump's taxes show. The entire left or Dems, blames everything on the largest racial segment of the US, and expects their sympathy. AND if that weren't enough, they also want the people (whoever they are) that work the hardest to pay the way for those that don't, aka socialism.


Oh, look...Ghot with the wrong take on this, like usual.

Do you know that artificially inflating net worth to obtain a bank loan is illegal?

But Trumpets don't care if Dear Leader did anything illegal, because it's all about party and "their guy".
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No one cares. Trump isn't a socialist and he doesn't hate whites. Two winning stances these days. LOL


The law and order party that doesn't care about the law and wants political opposition locked up without due process
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Mar 19 2019 08:57am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2019 08:36am)
You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.


What do Trump's arguments and knowledge look like? I always point back to this speech as my go-to example;
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-trump-paris-climate-accord/

He cited his sources, gave the facts and figures, laid out a cogent argument. I'm sure you won't look past his trademark hyperbole and superlatives and see only the style, but the logic is right there. And what was the 'intellectual' response? The fact-checking pundits insisted that 3% growth was impossible. Politifact even 'fact checked' his purely rhetorical statement about the citizens of pittsburgh not paris. Krugman probably got out of his apocalypse bunker he has been hiding in since election night only to see his shadow and retreat.

In an era of identity politics, weaponized morality and utterly retarded mindbogglingly anti-intellectual retardisms like the Green New Deal, I don't see how you can pretend a faction that embraces smug intellectual youtubers is the party of anti-intellectuals. Oh noes, they're watching Jordan Peterson deliver a monologue of nuanced deconstruction of rhetorical tropes employed by illogical zealots, that stupid generation is getting its mind rotted by internet access! Look away Billy!

Quote (majorblood @ Mar 19 2019 08:46am)
there's a difference between knowledge, intellect, and how someone represents themselves to the public. Would you prefer someone who looked good to the world (great speeches, friendly with allies, etc) but made questionable decisions or someone who looked questionable to the world but made good decisions?


We already know the answer to that question

Anyway Icemage, I'm going to give the archetypal example of left vs right political discourse right now, a video some of us should remember:


Who are the anti-intellectuals in that video?
Did you think Christopher Hitchens was an anti-intellectual back in the 90's? Who was your example of an 'intellectual' before that, Lester Maddox? :rofl:
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Mar 19 2019 08:58am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2019 09:36am)
You can't pretend younger Republicans on the internet represent Republican voters as a whole. Sure, the anti-intellectualism of the past was more religious in nature. People who attended church every Sunday were more likely to vote for Cruz in the primaries. But Trump got those voters anyway. He's probably the least knowledge, least intellectually curious president in history. He speaks in four letter words. He intentionally misspells words in tweets so the "elites" can correct him in the media. He's an idiot.

Also, just take a look at some of the Trumpists here. Posting weak arguments and memes all day. Watching dumb grifters like Candace Owens, Milo, etc. These aren't intellectual people.... they're just another stupid generation with internet access.


I also have a question... where were the insufferable intellectuals talking about nuance during CPAC? I seem to recall a bunch of Trumpist grifters.
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