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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2019 07:59am)
obama issued 2 vetos during his first two years in office, a time where his party still had unified control of congress.


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2019 08:02am)
the alternative to trump in 2016 was, and to this date still is, a comprehensive victory of liberals, sjws and their whole agenda.

that's what really matters. I guess that a lot of conservatives would like a less erratic standard bearer for their cause, would like a more efficient and less inconsistent person to be the one thing standing between them and total annihilation in the "culture wars".


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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 18 2019 10:53am)
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petty really is too weak of a word to describe Trump


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"In the 2012 presidential election season, my wife and I had a bumper sticker custom-made for our Volvo that read “Vegans for Romney” just to see the reaction of other Washington drivers."

I already like his style


Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2019 07:49am)
Republicans have controlled the Senate the entire time, and McConnell doesn't want to send Trump anything he can veto(it's the Trump party now, not the Republican party). Revoking the emergency declaration has been the one exception. Obviously the context for the other presidents is entirely different.

And the reason anyone would call Trump a dictator is for the emergency declaration in the first place, not the veto.



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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2019 07:58am)
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Just another normal day... the president calling the spouse of a senior aide a total loser.

But hey, the DOW is going up, and that's all that matters, amirite?


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Look! It's the wah, wah wah party. Well cry me a river. :/





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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2019 06:02am)
the alternative to trump in 2016 was, and to this date still is, a comprehensive victory of liberals, sjws and their whole agenda.

that's what really matters. I guess that a lot of conservatives would like a less erratic standard bearer for their cause, would like a more efficient and less inconsistent person to be the one thing standing between them and total annihilation in the "culture wars".


The alternative to trump was a conservative
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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 19 2019 08:19am)
The alternative to trump was a conservative


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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 19 2019 08:19am)
The alternative to trump was a conservative


It's interesting to me that a lot of Trumpists believe nobody except the carnival barker could've beaten Hillary. So, without the reality television star, Republican ideas are so unpopular that they can't ever win a presidential election again.

They might be right. Trump embodies the growing anti-intellectualism of the Republican party that has been brewing for decades. Thoughtful conservatism doesn't work when your voters can't understand big words.
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2019 06:30am)
It's interesting to me that a lot of Trumpists believe nobody except the carnival barker could've beaten Hillary. So, without the reality television star, Republican ideas are so unpopular that they can't ever win a presidential election again.

They might be right. Trump embodies the growing anti-intellectualism of the Republican party that has been brewing for decades. Thoughtful conservatism doesn't work when your voters can't understand big words.


they just don't question what they are told which is why everything left of right wing conspiracy tv is "far left media" and how Clinton of all people is a "comprehensive victory of liberals, sjws and their whole agenda."
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Quote (Beowulf @ 19 Mar 2019 09:19)
The alternative to trump was a conservative


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Quote (IceMage @ 19 Mar 2019 14:06)
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You implied that Trump having issued just one veto during his first 2 years in office cant grant him a point because his party controlled congress and shut down every bill he opposed before he had to veto it.
I'm pointing out that Obama found himself in a similar situation for the 2 years of his presidency, and still issued more vetos than Trump. Therefore, your argument doesnt devalue the original point made by helical's table: that Trump objectively issued very little vetos so far compared to his predecessors. My point is that this argument remains valid even if we adjust expectations for context/control of congress.

Quote (IceMage @ 19 Mar 2019 14:10)
Huh?


you said that many conservatives stick by trump despite all of his transgressions for some good DOW numbers (and SCOTUS seats), and clearly implied that this makes them weak and unprincipled.

I pointed out that they dont necessarily stick by him for those things, and that it's rather the abysmal alternative (from the pow of a conservative) that is keeping them in trump's column.

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The Democratic platform: Talk enough shyt and no one will hear what we are actually saying. :lol:
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