Quote (IceMage @ 19 Mar 2019 14:06)
Okay?
You implied that Trump having issued just one veto during his first 2 years in office cant grant him a point because his party controlled congress and shut down every bill he opposed before he had to veto it.
I'm pointing out that Obama found himself in a similar situation for the 2 years of his presidency, and still issued more vetos than Trump. Therefore, your argument doesnt devalue the original point made by helical's table: that Trump objectively issued very little vetos so far compared to his predecessors. My point is that this argument remains valid even if we adjust expectations for context/control of congress.
Quote (IceMage @ 19 Mar 2019 14:10)
Huh?
you said that many conservatives stick by trump despite all of his transgressions for some good DOW numbers (and SCOTUS seats), and clearly implied that this makes them weak and unprincipled.
I pointed out that they dont necessarily stick by him for those things, and that it's rather the abysmal alternative (from the pow of a conservative) that is keeping them in trump's column.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 19 2019 07:38am